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Archived [10/08/07] Battrick

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mikeW

International Vice-Captain
Will Herbert - 17 yo, BT Rating=24,383
LH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, drained
An attacking player with woeful leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: strong Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: proficient Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: abysmal



Atm im giving Herbert 7 nets 3 batting, 3 bowling and a feilding nets and i was wondering peoples thoughts on wwether this is the right way to go or not? I bought him off the market like this.

Will Herbert - 17 yo, BT Rating=21,741
LH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, drained
An attacking player with woeful leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: strong Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: proficient Consistency: feeble
Fielding: worthless

since then i have trained him for 3 weeks. Would he be closee to popping in batting and bowling?


The other guys im training are

Stuart Hogg - 18 yo, BT Rating=9,795
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, energetic
An attacking player with competent leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: abysmal Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: superb Consistency: woeful
Fielding: worthless

Clark Hook - 20 yo, BT Rating=67,506
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with woeful leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: mediocre
Batting: woeful Concentration: competent
Bowling: quality Consistency: sensational
Fielding: competent


Hogg on a fitness and bowling net and Hook on 1 bowling net. Thoughts?
 

mikeW

International Vice-Captain
Well this is my whole squad, is there anybody else i should give nets too?


Anthony Barry - 22 yo, BT Rating=3,279
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A cautious player with proficient leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: abysmal Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: abysmal Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: competent Consistency: feeble
Fielding: abysmal

Christian Blower - 27 yo, BT Rating=6,153
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A steady player with woeful leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: abysmal Wicket Keeping: proficient
Batting: feeble Concentration: woeful
Bowling: worthless Consistency: abysmal
Fielding: woeful

Jay Darryl - 18 yo, BT Rating=10,956
RH Batsman, LFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with superb leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: proficient Concentration: competent
Bowling: worthless Consistency: worthless
Fielding: worthless

Will Herbert - 17 yo, BT Rating=24,383
LH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, fatigued
An attacking player with woeful leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: strong Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: proficient Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: abysmal

Stuart Hogg - 18 yo, BT Rating=9,795
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with competent leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: abysmal Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: superb Consistency: woeful
Fielding: worthless

Clark Hook - 20 yo, BT Rating=67,506
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with woeful leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: mediocre
Batting: woeful Concentration: competent
Bowling: quality Consistency: sensational
Fielding: competent

Dirk Kennedy - 17 yo, BT Rating=855
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, worthless batting form, woeful bowling form, sublime
A cautious player with feeble leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: worthless Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: mediocre Consistency: woeful
Fielding: worthless

Doug Malcolm - 19 yo, BT Rating=8,365
RH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A steady player with woeful leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: feeble
Batting: proficient Concentration: competent
Bowling: worthless Consistency: worthless
Fielding: worthless

Kieron Mullis - 27 yo, BT Rating=2,032
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, worthless batting form, abysmal bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with strong leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: abysmal Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: competent Concentration: woeful
Bowling: worthless Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: feeble

Leon Nightingale - 24 yo, BT Rating=2,905
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, feeble batting form, abysmal bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with abysmal leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: mediocre Concentration: feeble
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: mediocre

Nicky Swain - 28 yo, BT Rating=2,872
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, abysmal batting form, woeful bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with respectable leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: abysmal Concentration: feeble
Bowling: mediocre Consistency: woeful
Fielding: woeful

Nasim Tahir - 19 yo, BT Rating=16,081
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A cautious player with abysmal leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: proficient Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: superb Concentration: feeble
Bowling: worthless Consistency: abysmal
Fielding: feeble

Teddy Wiese - 20 yo, BT Rating=2,998
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, proficient batting form, proficient bowling form, sublime
A destructive player with respectable leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: feeble Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: abysmal Concentration: feeble
Bowling: competent Consistency: woeful
Fielding: abysmal

Lee Wight - 24 yo, BT Rating=3,920
LH Batsman, LFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with abysmal leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: competent Concentration: feeble
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: abysmal

Daniel Wilkshire - 18 yo, BT Rating=6,551
LH Batsman, LM Bowler, superb batting form, strong bowling form, sublime
A destructive player with respectable leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: worthless Concentration: woeful
Bowling: respectable Consistency: competent
Fielding: abysmal
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
Just keep those nets stacked on Herbert if you can offord it. Allen started out similiar to that and now 1 and 3/4 seasons of training later he looks like this:

Charlie Allen - 19 yo, BT Rating=62,754
RH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, moderate
A destructive player with strong leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: strong Wicket Keeping: competent
Batting: wonderful Concentration: strong
Bowling: remarkable Consistency: competent
Fielding: mediocre
 
My Opinion :

Drop Herbert's nets back to 2/2/1 as the training difference is only 1 or 2 weeks that's unless you want him to be Under 19 Material which I highly doubt.

Fire Blower.

Darryl, Hook(Would train to two or three more pops as his value would increase a hell of a lot),Tahir are your other main trainees.

I would look to sell Hogg as he will cause too much distruption to your other trainees as his training would need 3 nets.

I would put Darryl, Tahir on 1 bat,1 Field and Hook on 1 bowl.

Hope this helps.
 

mikeW

International Vice-Captain
My Opinion :

Drop Herbert's nets back to 2/2/1 as the training difference is only 1 or 2 weeks that's unless you want him to be Under 19 Material which I highly doubt.

Fire Blower.

Darryl, Hook(Would train to two or three more pops as his value would increase a hell of a lot),Tahir are your other main trainees.

I would look to sell Hogg as he will cause too much distruption to your other trainees as his training would need 3 nets.

I would put Darryl, Tahir on 1 bat,1 Field and Hook on 1 bowl.

Hope this helps.
Hmm conflicting advice anyone else got any? btw i use Blower as my keeper as he is my only decent keeper. think i might pull a keeper when i make my first YP. Thanks for the advice btw.

Also is there any training programs which can help distinguish how far away a player is from popping?
 
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Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Will Herbert - 17 yo, BT Rating=24,383
LH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, drained
An attacking player with woeful leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: strong Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: proficient Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: abysmal



Atm im giving Herbert 7 nets 3 batting, 3 bowling and a feilding nets and i was wondering peoples thoughts on wwether this is the right way to go or not? I bought him off the market like this.

Will Herbert - 17 yo, BT Rating=21,741
LH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, drained
An attacking player with woeful leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: strong Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: proficient Consistency: feeble
Fielding: worthless

since then i have trained him for 3 weeks. Would he be closee to popping in batting and bowling?


The other guys im training are

Stuart Hogg - 18 yo, BT Rating=9,795
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, energetic
An attacking player with competent leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: abysmal Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: superb Consistency: woeful
Fielding: worthless

Clark Hook - 20 yo, BT Rating=67,506
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with woeful leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: mediocre
Batting: woeful Concentration: competent
Bowling: quality Consistency: sensational
Fielding: competent


Hogg on a fitness and bowling net and Hook on 1 bowling net. Thoughts?

I'd only give Herbert two bowl and one bat and one fielding. Three of any primary is always a massive waste, two would be fine but his secondaries are rubbish, especially compared to his primaries. There's only a gap of 4 levels between his bowling and consistency, so that's less of a problem. With 2 bowl and one fielding that gap will stay constant for a while, then you'll catch up when you switch drop to one bowling and he gets older - ideally you want the consistency to match or exceed the primary to get the most out of them, as a player and for their wages. With one bat and one fielding the 7 level gap between batting and concentration will narrow over time, should be gone to nothing in 4-5 seasons and you'll still have someone who's sensational+ bat.

His BT rating range is 19000-27700, so unlikely to pop in primaries imminently, probably get something within a month. Secondary pops are a complete unknown.

Oh and only with those 4 nets his PFL should recover as well, so you can actually play him occasionally.
 
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Mahindinho

State Vice-Captain
What Scaly said - three primary nets is a waste, unless you're trying to get someone into a national squad.

I'm boredy bored bored at the moment. Scaly - do you fancy a post-CW-Cup grudge match the Sunday after next (I already have this week's friendly booked)?

Failing that, I'd love the chance to test myself against Asterix or Whenuapai again...anyone..?
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
What Scaly said - three primary nets is a waste, unless you're trying to get someone into a national squad.

I'm boredy bored bored at the moment. Scaly - do you fancy a post-CW-Cup grudge match the Sunday after next (I already have this week's friendly booked)?

Failing that, I'd love the chance to test myself against Asterix or Whenuapai again...anyone..?
You mean the Sunday when the cup starts? Sure...
 

Adamc

Cricketer Of The Year
I'm free for a friendly against whoever (had no fewer than seven challenges which had all disappeared by the time I got around to trying to accept them :dry:).
 

mikeW

International Vice-Captain
I'd only give Herbert two bowl and one bat and one fielding. Three of any primary is always a massive waste, two would be fine but his secondaries are rubbish, especially compared to his primaries. There's only a gap of 4 levels between his bowling and consistency, so that's less of a problem. With 2 bowl and one fielding that gap will stay constant for a while, then you'll catch up when you switch drop to one bowling and he gets older - ideally you want the consistency to match or exceed the primary to get the most out of them, as a player and for their wages. With one bat and one fielding the 7 level gap between batting and concentration will narrow over time, should be gone to nothing in 4-5 seasons and you'll still have someone who's sensational+ bat.

His BT rating range is 19000-27700, so unlikely to pop in primaries imminently, probably get something within a month. Secondary pops are a complete unknown.

Oh and only with those 4 nets his PFL should recover as well, so you can actually play him occasionally.
Cheers for that, im rthinking i'll just take a bowling and batting net off him, anythoughts on who i should give them too?
 

Mahindinho

State Vice-Captain
You mean the Sunday when the cup starts? Sure...
Really?!

I must be getting my dates mixed up. Oops!

mikeW said:
Cheers for that, im rthinking i'll just take a bowling and batting net off him, anythoughts on who i should give them too?
Not sure about training Hogg - his consistency and attacking temperament mean that he's going to be expensive, and there's a big gap between bowling and cons.

Instead, Darryl could do with primary training, Tahir seriously needs some conc, and anything left over can go on Wilkshire.

I'd definitely get another level or two on Hook, if you can.
 

mikeW

International Vice-Captain
Really?!

I must be getting my dates mixed up. Oops!



Not sure about training Hogg - his consistency and attacking temperament mean that he's going to be expensive, and there's a big gap between bowling and cons.

Instead, Darryl could do with primary training, Tahir seriously needs some conc, and anything left over can go on Wilkshire.

I'd definitely get another level or two on Hook, if you can.
Hogg suprisingly hasnt performed to bad actually. Im thinking maybe i should just get a trainee batsmen early next season if i get a crap YP.
 

trevor_vayro

U19 Vice-Captain
I'm back in the office for the first day of an action-packed 2007, which has already got off to an expensive and inauspicious start, in BT and RL. In terms of RL, I've had to bribe the Mrs with a new laptop, in order to dissuade her from chucking me out, after I woke up in the wee small ours of Boxing Day - following an over-enthusiastic bout of Christmas drinking - only to redecorate her, as well as our bed, walls and carpet, in Technicolor shades of red wine and carrot!

But then, just as my credit cards were recovering from the shock of a new carpet and said laptop, some ****e-for-brains bird driving in the opposite direction to us, mistook her Ford KA for a Hum V, straddled the white lines in the middle of the road, and took our electric wing mirror off in the process. 'Er In doors's' chirped up with "Oh well, at least she didn't break the window!" Though, as I'd already suspected before ringing the never-helpful bunch of indolent teenage tw*ts at the Saab dealership, an electric wing mirror is going to cost me at least £150 more than a broken window would have done.

In the world of The Gurs, it's been a frenetic period of comings and goings. Out are 19Yo Prof/Med Bat Bennett, (£714,000) and Resp/Woe Bat, Carey, (£120,000). In come two young bowling trainees, as a long-term investment in my lamentable attack, even though in the short term their acquisitions have left me weaker with bat and ball. Wild cost me a little over £400K, and Zonke £225K.

Jon Wilde (939069)
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A cautious player with proficient leadership skills and worthless experience.

Table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Plays For: Cymru Gurgitaters
Nationality: New Zealand
Age: 17 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 6,438 (+180)
Wages: £639 p/w
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table end

Table with 4 columns and 4 rows
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: feeble Concentration: feeble
Bowling: respectable Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: abysmal

Glen Zonke (934691)
RH Batsman, RF Bowler, abysmal batting form, worthless bowling form, sublime
A destructive player with abysmal leadership skills and abysmal experience.

Table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Plays For: Cymru Gurgitaters
Nationality: New Zealand
Age: 17 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 4,108 (-117)
Wages: £807 p/w
*
table end

Table with 4 columns and 4 rows
Stamina: woeful Wicket Keeping: mediocre
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: respectable Consistency: feeble
Fielding: mediocre

Any idea how far up they are Scaly? And why is Zonke continuing to haemorrhage BTR despite getting trained? For the time being I've just got them on 1 bowling net each, while I wait on some other pops for a week or two, then I'll put Wild on two bowling nets, and Zonke on 1 Stam and 2 Bowling. Seeing as they're not starting from a terrible Cons point, I'll hang off from a fielding net for now, they'll still get one pop a season without it. Hopefully they'll both be Strong by the start of the season after this one.

But as I say, my wheeling and dealing has left me short in the batting department, with Comps at 6 and 7 ATM. I have about £5/600K left over with which to buy a replacement bat - Looking for a Prof I guess, maybe a Strong if I get lucky, with reasonable fielding ideally.

One or two pops over Christmas Staveley Conc, to Sup/Prof Bat, Cash Cons, to Strong/Resp Bowl and Field to Comp, Noon WK, to Prof, and Bewers Cons to Sup/Prof Bowl.

Lastly, before Nibbs whinges at me, If anyone's still free, I'm up for a friendly. Ideally I'd like a weaker side, or someone's seconds, as I'd like a dry run at the Cup first round, to see how many first teamers I can safely leave out.

Happy New year and all that, Trev
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Jon Wilde (939069)
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
A cautious player with proficient leadership skills and worthless experience.

Table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Plays For: Cymru Gurgitaters
Nationality: New Zealand
Age: 17 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 6,438 (+180)
Wages: £639 p/w
*
table end

Table with 4 columns and 4 rows
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: feeble Concentration: feeble
Bowling: respectable Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: abysmal

Range is 4900 to 9100, so about 1/3 of the way up that. Can't tell with the other guy because he's got rubbish form.
 

Mahindinho

State Vice-Captain
Ouch!

Barfing over your loved ones is always a nice touch.

It's absolutely bloody mental how expensive things like wing mirrors are getting - once upon a time, it was accepted that they'd take the odd knock, as would your bumpers, so they'd be cheap and/or be capable of taking some damage.

Now, it's all getting silly - a single scratch on a bumper sets you back £200, while one of those fancy electric-mirrors-with-an-indicator-light is similar, plus fitting of course.

Grrrr!
 

Agent TBY

International Captain
I'm free for a friendly against whoever (had no fewer than seven challenges which had all disappeared by the time I got around to trying to accept them :dry:).
Um, since Tharmi doesn't seem to be around, can I challenge you?
 

trevor_vayro

U19 Vice-Captain
Yep, £239.99 plus VAT and labour! I wish copious, haddock-scented, ******l discharge on the woman in the other car!

I also had an idea for a BT loan system over Christmas - What do you reckon. Say for example Scaly would loan me O'Brien for a season, or remainder thereof. Scaly would continue to pay his wages, but in return for his services, I would undertake to train him for X number of nets - To be agreed between the clubs - Which would come out of my allocation of ten nets, and which would be hard-wired into my Nets Page for the remainder of the season, so I couldn't go back on the deal. Scaly gets his player trained without taking up his valuable nets, whilst I get a player I couldn't afford to buy or pay at the moment. Scaly'd have to make certain he could do without him for the season, and could afford to pay his wages for the duration, as once he's loaned there's no going back or selling the player. I have to way up the benefits of short-term gain against long-term neglect.

A, do you think it's a good idea? And B, do you think it's a workable idea, worth putting to the GMs? Though given BT's recent record it's probably beyond them technically. Very disappointed with the way they've gone about this whole Twenty20 thing to be honest with you. I mean, if the programme doesn't work it doesn't work, no-one's fault, by Alan's own admission he's no software engineer! But what is frankly pathetic is the cowardice displayed in making out everything is okay when plainly they knew they were in trouble from a much earlier stage. People selected and trained their entire squads with FC in mind, and I for one, very nearly bought beyond my means, banking on their being some Twenty20 gate receipts. Would I have got my team back if I'd have gone floating snatch-up in the murky pond of bankruptcy? I very much doubt it! It is a fantastic game, and I spend more time thinking about it than is probably healthy for me, but if we're all supposed to invest our time and money intoBattrick, then there has to be some kind'a sense of ownership and accountability. ATM I feel as though it's someone else's game, which we're graciously allowed to play, as long as we're good. I almost feel churlish writing this, and criticising the Admin at all - But whilst I am genuinely extremely grateful for everything they do - I think we are entitled to expect a basic level of service, starting with knowing for definite, what competitions we're going to be playing from one season to the next.

Anyway, that's my little rant over, later, Trev
 

PY

International Coach
I need a friendly. If someone challenges me, I will accept it before Sunday but won't be able to for 48 hours.

Don't care who it is, I'm on terrible form and anyone has a chance. Team morale = pessimistic & fitness = low so can't wait for the reset.

There's some proper bargains on the market at the moment, gutted I spent 2.6m last week tbh.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Aren't any bargains from what I can see, market is useless if you're after good bowlers, a few good batsmen around going for ok prices.

I'm free for a friendly in case anyone wants one by the way.
 
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