sayon basak
International Debutant
Recently I've been looking at some list of greatest cricketers. Who do you think is the greatest among these cricketers?
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Who is the greatest cricketer out of this 13?
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Smith. Captaincy clinches it
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Simpson: batting, fielding, captaincy, and bowling
sayon basak
International Debutant
Quick Question:- Did fuller Pilch really have a FC bowling average of 1.35?
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Ummm..... I will go:
MaCartney
Shrewsbury
Willis
Simpson
Smith
Healy
Chandrashekhar
Snow
Hazare
Ponsford
Gower
Constantine
MaCartney
Shrewsbury
Willis
Simpson
Smith
Healy
Chandrashekhar
Snow
Hazare
Ponsford
Gower
Constantine
kyear2
International Coach
Think I answered this recently, but between Smith and Simpson.
Smith pros
Top 3 modern opener
Slip fielding
Historic captaincy
Simpson
Underrated opener
Arguably greatest slip fielder
Useful 5th bowler
Not sure if Smith's captaincy is great or just historic, but while Smith didn't play in a difficult batting era, he did have difficult home conditions and glfaced an historic attack. He was also a very good slip fielder.
While Smith was a very good slip, Simpson may have been the greatest off all time. He was also an underrated opening batsman, if way slower than Smith but his leggies were also very useful and more tangible than Smith's captaincy.
So Simpson, by the slimest of margins.
Smith pros
Top 3 modern opener
Slip fielding
Historic captaincy
Simpson
Underrated opener
Arguably greatest slip fielder
Useful 5th bowler
Not sure if Smith's captaincy is great or just historic, but while Smith didn't play in a difficult batting era, he did have difficult home conditions and glfaced an historic attack. He was also a very good slip fielder.
While Smith was a very good slip, Simpson may have been the greatest off all time. He was also an underrated opening batsman, if way slower than Smith but his leggies were also very useful and more tangible than Smith's captaincy.
So Simpson, by the slimest of margins.
In Pilch's day scorecards often showed just the bowler's wickets, not how many runs conceded or balls bowled.
In matches now designated as first-class where more comprehensive scorecards exist, Pilch took 10 wickets for 214 runs, an average of 21.40.
In matches with no record of runs conceded, he took another 132 wickets. Runs conceded unknown. Cricinfo has misleadingly divided 192 runs conceded (not even 214 as they missed some matches) by 142 wickets to give the average of 1.35.
Fuller Pilch was not a regular bowler. The 229 first-class matches total shown on Cricinfo is correct. So he took 142 wickets in 229 games.
Pilch was regarded as the best batsman of the roundarm era, in the same way that William Beldham was seen as the best of the underarm age.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Yes I did
kyear2
International Coach
Well done Sir
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Smith
sayon basak
International Debutant
No you didn't.
sayon basak
International Debutant
Wasn't Simpson a good captain too? Wasn't his leg breaks, ATG slip fielding and 55 average as an opener good enough to clinch this?
kyear2
International Coach
I think so.
How rare are 50+ averaging openers
and leg spinning 5th bowlers?
And arguably the greatest slip ever?
Definitely..