Which bowling attack would be more lethal in Australia?

[sunilz]

Which side has better bowling attack for SA tour of Aus in Dec/ Jan ?

 

[Starfighter]

SA

They don't have Starc. Also, SA having a mainly RH batting lineup neuters Lyon.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

SA has the slightly better attack, but Australia has a much better batting lineup, so will probably win.

 

[Prince EWS]

SA

They don't have Starc. Also, SA having a mainly RH batting lineup neuters Lyon.

I don't think we're supposed to assume the opposition batting lineup as the premise of the question. I took it basically as him asking whether Australia would be better than they are now at home if they had SA's attack instead.

 

[TheJediBrah]

neuters Lyon.

oh good, those genetics do not need to be perpetuated

 

[Nintendo]

If all the players in these attacks were at there theoretical peaks I would take SA, at the current time I would take AUS.

Cummins>Rabada just on experience in AUS conditions
Green>Mulder as a 4th bowler
Starc=Jansen Jansen is a better bowler, starc just has the extra experience while Jansen has never toured AUS (very tempted to say Jansen is better even now)
Lyon>Maharaj Lyons tailored his bowling to AUS conditions, while the only foreign spinners to succeed in AUS recently have needed multiple tours to figure out how to succeed.
Hazlewood=Nortje, >Ngidi. If Nortje had a few AUS tours under his belt I would back him to outbowl haze in these conditions, also offers another point of difference for the SA attack.

 

[Starfighter]

I don't think we're supposed to assume the opposition batting lineup as the premise of the question. I took it basically as him asking whether Australia would be better than they are now at home if they had SA's attack instead.

I don't think you can shear the question of its context.

 

[Spark]

If all the players in these attacks were at there theoretical peaks I would take SA, at the current time I would take AUS.

Funny, I would have said the exact opposite - mostly because Lyon has fallen away so much from his peak form.

 

[Nintendo]

Funny, I would have said the exact opposite - mostly because Lyon has fallen away so much from his peak form.

Lyon's returns have been fine at home and away recently aside from the last time india toured, no?

 

[Gob]

Hmm Lyon won two tests in Pak and Sl. Or are we talking about performances in Aus

 

[Daemon]

Backing Cummins 100%.

 

[Spark]

Hmm Lyon won two tests in Pak and Sl. Or are we talking about performances in Aus

Yeah in Aus, where he's been well off his best for a few summers now.

 

[Nintendo]

Yeah in Aus, where he's been well off his best for a few summers now.

In 2021 he took 16 wickets @23.6, in 2019 he took 27 wickets @ 22, in 2018 he took 25 wickets @32.6. He had a horrid summer in 2020 no doubt but he's not been that poor at home, has he?

 

[Spark]

In 2021 he took 16 wickets @23.6, in 2019 he took 27 wickets @ 22, in 2018 he took 25 wickets @32.6. He had a horrid summer in 2020 no doubt but he's not been that poor at home, has he?

He was definitely still a ways off his best last summer IMO. By no means bad but no longer the point of difference in the attack, he just doesn't take enough poles at home at the moment.

 

[Nintendo]

He was definitely still a ways off his best last summer IMO. By no means bad but no longer the point of difference in the attack, he just doesn't take enough poles at home at the moment.

That's a fair point tbh. Would be curious to see how many of Lyons wickets last summer where tail ender wickets. He 100% didn't look like taking wickets vs India in 2021, was a major reason we lost that series IMO.

 

[Everton Seymour]

The Aussie bowlers know their conditions . SA suck at beating England in tests home and away , so using an attack that is used to being on the losing side against England wouldn't bode well for the Ashes .

 

[TheJediBrah]

Lyon sucks, Starc sucks

The Aus attack is relying on Haze & *** with backup from Green. And I'm a but concerned that *** has been ruined by trying to be a white-ball bowler

 

[ankitj]

It's amazing how Australia's 3 lead pacers are always fit for international games. They are always on the park in all formats.

 

[Starfighter]

The Aussie bowlers know their conditions . SA suck at beating England in tests home and away , so using an attack that is used to being on the losing side against England wouldn't bode well for the Ashes .

Nah, SA have done well here for a while now. Plus they always seem to be able to pull a performance out of their backsides. That's why as much as much as Indian fans would like to claim they're our number one rivals SA are the team I'm actually afraid of when they visit.

 

[Starfighter]

It's amazing how Australia's top 3 pacers are always fit for international games. They are always on the park.

It was only ten years ago we seemed to be picking a new attack every game.