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When will Philander average > 20?
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ohnoitsyou
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Never over the long term, apart from a few blips
ohnoitsyou
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Yes because he's a superior version of McGrath
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I think he might tbh. Not because I think he's the greatest bowler ever, but he's already 28 and has entered the national team at his absolute peak. If and when the decline does come, I think he'll retire not too long after, without his average being affected that much. It's not impossible he ends with 18-19.
Plua, hrs a massive ****. Wouldn't surprise me if he retires to protect that average
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ohnoitsyou
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and McGrath was really just an inferior version of Hadlee
centurymaker
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Good points.I think he might tbh. Not because I think he's the greatest bowler ever, but he's already 28 and has entered the national team at his absolute peak. If and when the decline does come, I think he'll retire not too long after, without his average being affected that much. It's not impossible he ends with 18-19.
Plua, hrs a massive ****. Wouldn't surprise me if he retires to protect that average
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Will rise if they have tours of India and SL back to back.
Will end up over 20 just not sure when.
Will end up over 20 just not sure when.
Jono
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Having said that I couldn't resist voting the "when Pujara averages less than 60 i.e. never" option lol
Hope the Australia series in Feb gets it close to 20. India and Sri Lanka can take over from there. I dislike the guy and I am not sure he is the next McGrath. Can't argue against a record like that though, just hope he gets smashed. Total **** he is, walks and talks like he's the best thing ever. We'll see how much he mouths off when he is up against Cook/Pietersen at Lords or Warner/Clarke at Adelaide or Kohli/Pujara at Mumbai.
centurymaker
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Even when he fails, he has a habit of picking up 2 or so wickets towards the end of an innings to keep is average low.
Prince EWS
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I don't think it's that massive a call, honestly.
He's the best bowler for South African conditions in the world. I would take him ahead of Steyn in South Africa without too much hesitation, and he's going to play half his matches there - possibly more. He's already taken 102 wickets at less than 18 and he's 28 years old. If he takes his next 50 wickets @ 24.9 then he'll still average < 20 after that, and I fully expect him to average < 20 in the matches he plays in South Africa over that period so we're looking at at 30+ average overseas for his next 50 wickets or so to get it up there by then. Given how he's prone to being a bit under-rated and also prone to letting himself get out of condition, not to mention generally poor attitude across his earlier career, I don't think it'll take too many games of him looking pedestrian for the selectors in their infinite wisdom to drop him for a 6ft6 bloke who bowls at 145km/h once the decline comes.
If I were a betting man (lol) I'd be backing very low 20s, but him finishing with a career average below 20 is in no way out of the question. Him playing on into his mid 30s and taking 300 wickets at < 20 would definitely surprise me but him ending his career at that mark wouldn't really at all.