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What's the future hold for Gillespie?

Jdz

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
After hitting the glorious Double Century, I'm wondering what's his future, in International level particular is?

Any thoughts?
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
A fair bit of cricket but not in the Baggy Green I imagine. I think Clark and Johnson have both overtaken him and Bracken can't be far away. You never know though, if he puts together a string of good performances with the bat and the ball in Pura Cup cricket then he could be back in the test team quickly. Don't think he will play in the Ashes unless one or two of the quicks get injured though.
 

Mister Wright

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He has an advantage over Clark, Bracken and Johnson (who I think is in the CC squad) because he'll be able to push for an Ashes bowling spot in the Pura Cup while the other three are playing ODIs during the Champions Trophy.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
True, but if Clark, Bracken and Johnson all perform well then they are almost certainties to be in competition for the Ashes with Gillespie left playing domestic cricket. Even if they only perform moderately well and Gillespie is bowling quite well I think it would be unlikely that he would get the call up, because the other bowlers have the advantage of being on the selectors minds and putting in performances at the top level even if it is ODI's.
 

Mister Wright

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Perm said:
True, but if Clark, Bracken and Johnson all perform well then they are almost certainties to be in competition for the Ashes with Gillespie left playing domestic cricket. Even if they only perform moderately well and Gillespie is bowling quite well I think it would be unlikely that he would get the call up, because the other bowlers have the advantage of being on the selectors minds and putting in performances at the top level even if it is ODI's.
That's all true. But, they are different forms of the game. We've seen Bracken can be a gun in ODIs but he is woeful in the longer version of the game. If Gillespie is taking a mass of wicket he should be at least in the squad of 12.
 

Perm

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Mister Wright said:
If Gillespie is taking a mass of wicket he should be at least in the squad of 12.
Big call IMO. You'd think that Clark, McGrath and Lee would have the 3 seamers spots stitched up for the Brisbane Test. And then I think that Australia would like to have MacGill as 12th man for almost all of their games just because of how effective he is and how prone the English are to collapsing to a leg spinner. Still alot of cricket to be played between now and the First Test, and if Johnson, Bracken and Clark all perform below par at the Champions Trophy then maybe Gillespie will get the call up. I just don't think he will sadly.
 

Mister Wright

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Perm said:
Big call IMO. You'd think that Clark, McGrath and Lee would have the 3 seamers spots stitched up for the Brisbane Test. And then I think that Australia would like to have MacGill as 12th man for almost all of their games just because of how effective he is and how prone the English are to collapsing to a leg spinner. Still alot of cricket to be played between now and the First Test, and if Johnson, Bracken and Clark all perform below par at the Champions Trophy then maybe Gillespie will get the call up. I just don't think he will sadly.
I think Australia should be playing their 4 best bowlers - Warne, McGrath, MacGill and Lee (I only list him in the 4 because I know he'll be selected...:p) especially if Watson is going to be in the side. However, especially in Brisbane, I don't think MacGill will be in the 12. It will be 4 paceman and a spinner named in the 12 man squad.
 

Perm

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
They could very well go into the majority of the tests with MacGill playing alongisde Warne, especially if Watson is playing to provide that third seamer role. Agreed that MacGill won't be in the 12 man squad for some games, most likely Brisbane, but in that case I would still think that Johnson and Clark would both be ahead of Gillespie.
 

Mister Wright

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Perm said:
They could very well go into the majority of the tests with MacGill playing alongisde Warne, especially if Watson is playing to provide that third seamer role. Agreed that MacGill won't be in the 12 man squad for some games, most likely Brisbane, but in that case I would still think that Johnson and Clark would both be ahead of Gillespie.
I'm not that sure that Johnson is ahead of Gillespie for a test berth TBH. I guess will find out over the summer. I think the important note is that Gillespie is far from out of the picture.
 

Perm

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Mister Wright said:
I think the important note is that Gillespie is far from out of the picture.
Totally agree, personally I think he will be playing Pura Cup for most of the summer though. Selectors will definately be keeping an eye on him though.
 

FaaipDeOiad

Hall of Fame Member
Will play some cricket in the Ashes, I think. Don't know how well he will do, but as things stand Clark is far from a certainty. He bowled well in South Africa, but I doubt the selectors will still have him an automatic selection based on that, especially given his indifferent ODI form and the fact that Gillespie played both tests in Bangladesh.

Johnson is fairly close but will need to have a huge Champions Trophy to get selected for the first test. He's more likely to make his debut after the Ashes, barring injuries to other bowlers. Obviously he has the drawcard of being young and a potential star though, so he's a realistic chance too.

If Gillespie has a good start in the Pura Cup and Clark doesn't do anything special in the ODIs, Gillespie may well play in Brisbane. Either way, if Clark does start and has a poor test, Gillespie or Johnson may well get picked ahead of him the next time the selectors want 3 seamers - presumably at the WACA.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Hopefully dizzy still has a future in the test side not only in the Ashes but beyond, i would hate to see him just fade away & play out his career for the redbacks.
 

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
He will make a remarkable comeback and take 10 consecutive 10 wicket hauls.........win the ashes and world cup for aussies single handedly.
 
I think Johnson has just edged ahead of Gillespie when he tore India to threads but as I said he is just ahead so any mistake in the CT he could be in trouble to be the backup seamer
 

Turbinator

Cricketer Of The Year
AussieDominance said:
I think Johnson has just edged ahead of Gillespie when he tore India to threads but as I said he is just ahead so any mistake in the CT he could be in trouble to be the backup seamer
Please clarify WHEN was this.....because as far as I remember there are many instances where Australia tore India to threads, just exactly which one are you talking about.
 

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