Usman Khawaja vs Justin Langer vs David Warner vs Mark Taylor?

[Pant Kameez]

fwiw, ATG Australian middle order contenders by SR:

Bradman 61.0
Ponting 58.72
Smith 53.50
Chappell 51
Waugh 48.64
Miller 43
Border 41.0

Warner struck at 70, Viv at 69, Trumper at 67 and Hayden at 60, for reference.

Chad for a reason

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Khawaja. Excellent away tours of Ind and Eng in recent times. I hope he ends as better than Hayden

And Pakistan.

Won't get up with Hayden though.

 

[shortpitched713]

It's one if the current 2. Definitely not Taylor or Langer, good as they were.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

It's one if the current 2.

Must be Usman then. Definitely isn't Stevie Smith.

 

[Slifer]

Definitely not Warner, too much of a liability outside of Australia.

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Easy to pick holes in most people’s records including Taylor

England were generally poor when he played, best record is against Pakistan and that’s owed to one innings on a road, failed against SA, barely played against India etc

Warner is a better player than Tubby

Taylor did average 39.60 in the West Indies which is a good effort for a Test Opening batsman in that era, as we know the West Indies were very strong back then. If Taylor was opening the batting nowdays then he probably averages high 40s (even averages in the 50 range).

In 16 innings he scored 594 runs, with one century and five half-centuries. So he averaged a 50+ score every 2.6 innings. Again, not bad for the opposition of that period he played against in thier home country.

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Look I actually really like Warner, he’s a **** sure, but the kind of **** I kinda like fsr.

But I’m dropping the bloke unless we’re playing in Australia or South Africa, and that’s just not good enough compared to the rest of these guys.

Exactly, Warner averaged 32 away from the comforts of home country (Australia). That's simply not good enough. Big gap between his home record and away record. Again not good enough.

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Easy to pick holes in most people’s records including Taylor

England were generally poor when he played, best record is against Pakistan and that’s owed to one innings on a road, failed against SA, barely played against India etc

Warner is a better player than Tubby

Are you talking about Taylor's Away record or his overall record against Pakistan?

 

[BazBall21]

Boon was a better bat than Taylor

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Boon was a better bat than Taylor

There isn't much between Boon & Taylor in my opinion. Neither is mile's ahead of each other.

 

[Mike5181]

Is Michael Slater a little underrated? I remember going through statsguru and he had a pretty impressive record against the best bowlers during his career.

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Is Michael Slater a little underrated? I remember going through statsguru and he had a pretty impressive record against the best bowlers during his career.

Slater, very good opening batsman. Probably underrated as you said because we've had a few good Test Opening batsman for Australia come along since he retired.

 

[BazBall21]

There isn't much between Boon & Taylor in my opinion. Neither is mile's ahead of each other.

Against quality fast bowling - I would take Boon.

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Against quality fast bowling - I would take Boon.

Not sure to be honest. Both were capable against pace and spin from memory.

 

[BazBall21]

Not sure to be honest. Both were capable against pace and spin from memory.

Records v WI are why I rate Boon ahead.

And while Boon's worst opponent was Pakistan - he made up for it to some extent with his hundred against them being the best of his career.

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

Records v WI are why I rate Boon ahead.

And while Boon's worst opponent was Pakistan - he made up for it to some extent with his hundred against them being the best of his career.

This was their stats vs WI & PAK in the Openers position

Opposition - Home & Away	David Boon	Mark Taylor
vs WI: Home	639 @ 45.64	390 @ 19.50
vs WI: Away	No Games	594 @ 39.60
vs PAK: Home	5 @ 5.00	728 @ 80.88
vs PAK: Away	113 @ 22.60	619 @ 77.37

 

[The_CricketUmpire]

This was similar thread created earlier in the year, maybe the thread below can be tied into/joined this thread?

Mark Taylor vs Justin Langer vs David Warner

Best Australian test opener to pair with Matthew Hayden in last 40-50 years?

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