U19 world cup 2000

[four_or_six]

After all the conversations about lots of great players either retiring or about to retire, I was thinking about who the players who will take over from them will be - both in terms of records and fan-base.

To cut a long story short, this took me to looking at the U19 world cup in 2000, thinking that those players would now be around 26-28 years old and therefore on the verge of becoming established players themselves. It's interesting to see the squads with a mixture of current internationals/players on the verge of the team, and also the "where are they now's."

Australia:

* MJ Clarke
* NM Hauritz
* MJ Baker
* GC Batticciotto
* LG Buchanan
* EJM Cowan
* CD Hartley
* MG Johnson
* SE Marsh
* AB McDonald
* AW O'Brien
* PC Rofe
* SR Watson
* TH Welsford

England:

* Alex Loudon (Captain)
* Ian Bell
* Michael Carberry
* John Maunders
* Gary Pratt
* John Sadler
* Justin Bishop
* David Harrison
* Tim Murtagh
* Tim Phillips
* Nick Warren
* Graeme Bridge
* Ian Pattison
* +Mark Wallace

India:

* *M Kaif
* RS Sodhi
* Yuvraj Singh
* YV Rao
* NK Patel
* S Sriwastava
* M Tripathi
* +A Ratra
* NA Yadav
* RS Ricky
* S Vidyuth
* M Diwakar
* AM Dave
* Manish Sharma

New Zealand:

# JEC Franklin (Captain)
# IG Butler
# G Hayne
# NKW Horsley
# JM How
# GD Irwin
# RK Lynch
# BB McCullum
# NL McCullum
# JP McNamee
# LJ Morgan
# TP Robin
# GS Shaw
# SL Stewart

South Africa:

* T Tsololike (Captain)
* JA Rudolph (Vice Captain)
* PA Abrahams
* U Abrahams
* J Botha
* R Gobind
* Z Homani
* DL Makalima
* JA Morkel
* JG Myburgh
* AG Puttick
* D Senekal
* GC Smith
* J Trott

Pakistan:

* Hasan Raza
* Imran Nazir
* Imran Farhat
* Taufeeq Umer
* Faisal Iqbal
* Babar Naeem
* Yasir Arafat
* Zahid Saeed
* Irfan Fazil
* Janisar Khan
* Humayun Farhat
* Muhammad Sami
* Shoaib Malik
* Danish Kaneria

Sri Lanka:

* KM Gajanayake(Captain)
* SHT Kandamby(Vice captain)
* GI Daniels
* J Mubarak
* RAP Nissanka
* GGR Dhammika
* KS Lokuarachchi
* LU Irandika
* RT Peiris
* LC Perera
* M Pushpakumara
* KM Fernando
* WCA Ganegama
* K Weeraratne

West Indies:

* RO Hinds (Captain)
* M Samuels
* CF Lopez
* K Wilkinson
* B Parchment
* J Lawson
* AP Richardson
* S Chattergoon
* N Deonarine
* R Ramgobin
* ZR Ali
* RI Sooklal
* G Francois
* CC Alexander
* K Peters

 

[Richard]

Players still involved in cricket (AFAIK):
Australia:

* MJ Clarke
* NM Hauritz
* EJM Cowan
* CD Hartley
* MG Johnson
* SE Marsh
* AB McDonald
* AW O'Brien
* PC Rofe
* SR Watson

England:

* Ian Bell
* Michael Carberry
* David Harrison
* Tim Murtagh
* Tim Phillips
* +Mark Wallace

India:

* *M Kaif
* RS Sodhi
* Yuvraj Singh
* YV Rao
* NK Patel
* S Sriwastava
* M Tripathi
* +A Ratra
* NA Yadav
* RS Ricky
* S Vidyuth
* M Diwakar
* AM Dave
* Manish Sharma
HONESTLY DON'T HAVE A CLUE HERE. So in bold are those I know for certain are.
New Zealand:

# JEC Franklin
# IG Butler
# G Hayne
# NKW Horsley
# JM How
# GD Irwin
# RK Lynch
# BB McCullum
# NL McCullum
# JP McNamee
# LJ Morgan
# TP Robin
# GS Shaw
# SL Stewart
IN BOLD are those who've played international cricket - not entirely sure about the rest but still recognise some names.
South Africa:

* T Tsololike (Captain)
* JA Rudolph (Vice Captain)
* PA Abrahams
* J Botha
* R Gobind
* JA Morkel
* JG Myburgh
* AG Puttick
* D Senekal
* GC Smith
* J Trott
at Jonathan Trott. Also at the fact that Tsolekile not Smith captained.
Pakistan:

* Hasan Raza
* Imran Nazir
* Imran Farhat
* Taufeeq Umer
* Faisal Iqbal
* Yasir Arafat
* Humayun Farhat
* Muhammad Sami
* Shoaib Malik
* Danish Kaneria

Sri Lanka:

* SHT Kandamby
* GI Daniel
* J Mubarak
* RAP Nissanka
* KS Lokuarachchi
* KM Fernando
* WCA Ganegama
* K Weeraratne
LEFT HERE are those still around somewhere - the nature of Lankan cricket is that players disappear without trace regularly.
West Indies:

* RO Hinds (Captain)
* M Samuels
* CF Lopez
* K Wilkinson
* B Parchment
* J Lawson
* AP Richardson
* S Chattergoon
* N Deonarine
* R Ramgobin
* ZR Ali
* RI Sooklal
* G Francois
* CC Alexander
* K Peters
Not too sure about any of these, other than Hinds, Samuels, Parchment, Wilkinson, Lawson, Richardson, Deonarine and Chattergoon.

Still have high hopes for some of the above lot. But the nature of under-19 cricket is that more fail to make any notable grade (ie, good domestic players with long careers) than make good international players.

 

[four_or_six]

England's is a very short list... that's pretty interesting really.

 

[Precambrian]

England:

* Alex Loudon (Captain)
* Ian Bell
* Michael Carberry
* John Maunders
* Gary Pratt
* John Sadler
* Justin Bishop
* David Harrison
* Tim Murtagh
* Tim Phillips
* Nick Warren
* Graeme Bridge
* Ian Pattison
* +Mark Wallace

Garry Pratt! The Supersub!! He stopped playing cricket right? I think he's concentrating more on football.

India:

* *M Kaif
* RS Sodhi
* Yuvraj Singh
* YV Rao
* NK Patel
* S Sriwastava
* M Tripathi
* +A Ratra
* NA Yadav
* RS Ricky
* S Vidyuth
* M Diwakar
* AM Dave
* Manish Sharma


Pakistan:

* Hasan Raza
* Imran Nazir
* Imran Farhat
* Taufeeq Umer
* Faisal Iqbal
* Babar Naeem
* Yasir Arafat
* Zahid Saeed
* Irfan Fazil
* Janisar Khan
* Humayun Farhat
* Muhammad Sami
* Shoaib Malik
* Danish Kaneria

Updated.

 

[Richard]

England's is a very short list... that's pretty interesting really.

Yep.

Truth is, lots of average cricketers get in age-group sides even up to under-19s in the UK. There's so many good county (and even a few England) players who never played under-19 internationals, while there's many who did play u19s and never made the county grade.

England's list being shortest isn't entirely representative - as I say, I know insufficient amounts about the game in India, New Zealand and Pakistan to say much. And in Sri Lanka things can change in the blink of an eyelid.

 

[Richard]

Garry Pratt! The Supersub!! He stopped playing cricket right? I think he's concentrating more on football.

Pratt was always poor. He had 1 good season, in 2003, but did next to nothing besides that. His county career ended after the 2006 season.

Simply a poor cricketer with outstanding fielding skills who was in the right place at the right time and became a national cult hero. It's near enough never happened to anyone before (the not-even-county-standard cricketer who achieves even a few moments of fame on the international stage) and might never do again.

 

[Precambrian]

Pratt was always poor. He had 1 good season, in 2003, but did next to nothing besides that. His county career ended after the 2006 season.

Simply a poor cricketer with outstanding fielding skills who was in the right place at the right time and became a national cult hero. It's near enough never happened to anyone before (the not-even-county-standard cricketer who achieves even a few moments of fame on the international stage) and might never do again.

Yea, but kind of "wasted" talent, considering he has come through the U-19 system, played even the U-19 WC, then the gradual fade away.

 

[stumpski]

Most of that Pakistan squad seem to have represented the senior side at some stage, but perhaps that's not surprising as they often get 'fast-tracked' from the U-19s into the Test side. Wasn't there a bowler who actually made his f-c debut in a Test against Bangladesh?

Several of the England squad (e.g. Carberry, Murtagh) are at least established county players.

 

[Precambrian]

Most of that Pakistan squad seem to have represented the senior side at some stage, but perhaps that's not surprising as they often get 'fast-tracked' from the U-19s into the Test side. Wasn't there a bowler who actually made his f-c debut in a Test against Bangladesh?

Several of the England squad (e.g. Carberry, Murtagh) are at least established county players.

There are many. Wasim Akram made his test debut after bowling impressively as a nets bowler. And given the lack of proper verification of date of birth, I guess many of them were really not U-19 at that time.

 

[fredfertang]

Pratt was always poor. He had 1 good season, in 2003, but did next to nothing besides that. His county career ended after the 2006 season.

Simply a poor cricketer with outstanding fielding skills who was in the right place at the right time and became a national cult hero. It's near enough never happened to anyone before (the not-even-county-standard cricketer who achieves even a few moments of fame on the international stage) and might never do again.

Sydney H. Copley (1905-1986)
Sydney made his Nottinghamshire debut in 1930 and did not play again after that. His most famous cricketing moment came during a test match! In the 1930 Ashes match at Trent Bridge, Copley came on as substitute fielder to catch Stan McCabe for 49. England went on to win the match. Later played professionally for Cuper in Scotland and became coach at King Williams School.

 

[zaremba]

Peter Cantrell was born and raised in Australia, and for four years, he represented Queensland in the Sheffield Shield. He took two catches as substitute fielder in the 1990-91 Brisbane Test against England. He was hurriedly called up as a substitute fielder (he'd been at a nightclub until 3am that morning) and took two catches - one a blinder to do Alec Stewart - as England collapsed fatally for 114 in their second innings. Cantrell's presence was slightly controversial, given that he was probably the best gully fielder in Australia at the time and that the less sure-fingered Carl Rackemann was the official 12th man.

 

[fredfertang]

The record is held by Gursharan Singh who held four catches as a substitute fielder without ever playing a test

 

[zaremba]

Great trivium. However ultimately you can keep your Copley, your Cantrell and your Singh - the man who will always have a special place in my heart is the aforementioned Gary Pratt. What a man! What a run-out! What a pitiful piece of petulance by the Australian captain having run himself out (or was it Martyn's fault?) by taking a suicidal single to a specialist cover fielder! Happy days.

 

[stumpski]

Peter Cantrell was born and raised in Australia, and for four years, he represented Queensland in the Sheffield Shield. He took two catches as substitute fielder in the 1990-91 Brisbane Test against England. He was hurriedly called up as a substitute fielder (he'd been at a nightclub until 3am that morning) and took two catches - one a blinder to do Alec Stewart - as England collapsed fatally for 114 in their second innings. Cantrell's presence was slightly controversial, given that he was probably the best gully fielder in Australia at the time and that the less sure-fingered Carl Rackemann was the official 12th man.

He also settled in Holland and played for them in the 1996 World Cup.

 

[fredfertang]

Great trivium. However ultimately you can keep your Copley, your Cantrell and your Singh - the man who will always have a special place in my heart is the aforementioned Gary Pratt. What a man! What a run-out! What a pitiful piece of petulance by the Australian captain having run himself out (or was it Martyn's fault?) by taking a suicidal single to a specialist cover fielder! Happy days.

I couldn't agree more Mr Z - I am just being a pedant - although I have found an even more remarkable one - Philip Hough - never played a first class match but came on as sub for Len Hutton at Old Trafford in 1950 and held two catches - not good enough to get a game for Lanky though

 

[zaremba]

One of the more remarkable substitute performance in FC history was of course by Kevin Innes who scored a century as stand-in for James Kirtley (who returned to the team having been left out of the England Test XI) in 2003. I forget which county he was playing for and what they achieved that season

 

[fredfertang]

One of the more remarkable substitute performance in FC history was of course by Kevin Innes who scored a century as stand-in for James Kirtley (who returned to the team having been left out of the England Test XI) in 2003. I forget which county he was playing for and what they achieved that season

Yes and the reason you forget is because you know as well as I do that that sort of thing goes against the spirit of the game and that county should have been disqualified and the Championship awarded to the runners up, whoever they may have been.



Sorry Richard but that's incitement

 

[Richard]

Sydney H. Copley (1905-1986)
Sydney made his Nottinghamshire debut in 1930 and did not play again after that. His most famous cricketing moment came during a test match! In the 1930 Ashes match at Trent Bridge, Copley came on as substitute fielder to catch Stan McCabe for 49. England went on to win the match. Later played professionally for Cuper in Scotland and became coach at King Williams School.

Peter Cantrell was born and raised in Australia, and for four years, he represented Queensland in the Sheffield Shield. He took two catches as substitute fielder in the 1990-91 Brisbane Test against England. He was hurriedly called up as a substitute fielder (he'd been at a nightclub until 3am that morning) and took two catches - one a blinder to do Alec Stewart - as England collapsed fatally for 114 in their second innings. Cantrell's presence was slightly controversial, given that he was probably the best gully fielder in Australia at the time and that the less sure-fingered Carl Rackemann was the official 12th man.

Great to hear both these stories (I think I'd heard something of the Cantrell one before, rings a bell now you mention it, though none of the specifics). However, as kinda mentioned, neither of them touch Pratt. Running-out the Australian captain during the course of the most scintillating Ashes series in history tops both comfortably.

Ponting's inability to keep his cool has of course manifested itself on many occasions before and after and it's (IMO) his biggest failing as a captain.

 

[Richard]

Most of that Pakistan squad seem to have represented the senior side at some stage, but perhaps that's not surprising as they often get 'fast-tracked' from the U-19s into the Test side. Wasn't there a bowler who actually made his f-c debut in a Test against Bangladesh?

Yeah, Yasir Ali in 2003.

Ridiculous.

 

[Precambrian]

Grant to hear both these stories (I think I'd heard something of the Cantrell one before, rings a bell now you mention it, though none of the specifics). However, as kinda mentioned, neither of them touch Pratt. Running-out the Australian captain during the course of the most scintillating Ashes series in history tops both comfortably.

Ponting's inability to keep his cool has of course manifested itself on many occasions before and after and it's (IMO) his biggest failing as a captain.

Most scintillating Ashes = Back from Dead and buried = Ashes 1981.