Substitutes to be allowed in ODI's

[aussie]

The ICC chief executives' committee (CEC) has approved the introduction of two innovations into all one-day internationals from July 30. The new regulations, which involve the fielding restrictions and the introduction of replacement players, will be trialled for 10 months after which they will be reviewed by the Cricket Committee - which made the initial recommendations - at its 2006 meeting.

The change to the way that fielding restrictions apply in ODI cricket will see an increase from 15 to 20 overs of restrictions. These restrictions will apply for the first 10 overs of every innings plus two additional blocks of five overs which must be selected by the fielding captain. The CEC decided that the additional `close-catcher' field restrictions should only apply for the first 10 overs.

The CEC also approved the introduction of football-style replacements which will permit sides to replace a player at any stage of a match. The replaced player will be ruled out of the rest of the match while the replacement will be entitled to assume any remaining batting or bowling duties. Both players will receive a cap.



I'm not so fond of the idea of the changing of the fielding restrictions, but i do like the idea of swapping players.

What r your views on this????

 

[Swervy]

The ICC chief executives' committee (CEC) has approved the introduction of two innovations into all one-day internationals from July 30. The new regulations, which involve the fielding restrictions and the introduction of replacement players, will be trialled for 10 months after which they will be reviewed by the Cricket Committee - which made the initial recommendations - at its 2006 meeting.

The change to the way that fielding restrictions apply in ODI cricket will see an increase from 15 to 20 overs of restrictions. These restrictions will apply for the first 10 overs of every innings plus two additional blocks of five overs which must be selected by the fielding captain. The CEC decided that the additional `close-catcher' field restrictions should only apply for the first 10 overs.

The CEC also approved the introduction of football-style replacements which will permit sides to replace a player at any stage of a match. The replaced player will be ruled out of the rest of the match while the replacement will be entitled to assume any remaining batting or bowling duties. Both players will receive a cap.

I'm not so fond of the idea of the changing of the fielding restrictions, but i do like the idea of swapping players.

What r your views on this????

it will be hard to get used to, but I think overtime both these moves will be considered very positive for the game....esp the field restriction bit..those middle overs are just crap at the moment, you might as well watch 50 replays of the same drive along the ground to long on or off

 

[Scaly piscine]

I haven't any particular view on the fielding restrictions, but I'm massively against the substitions nonsense - that is just a rule that's copied from other sports and is simply not cricket.

 

[maxpower]

this mean ganguly will never make any money of match fees, because he had a hard time getting the regular field settings done in time, now with the 2 different settings will require a lot of thinking on his part, and IND fielding will result in a day by itself With substitutions now IND can bat 10 batsmen and 1 keeper and replace the keeper with another batsmen if they field first On serious note, its now even more designed to make life easier for batsmen and more batting records will be broken, being a fast bowler will suck.

 

[aussie]

it will be hard to get used to, but I think overtime both these moves will be considered very positive for the game....esp the field restriction bit..those middle overs are just crap at the moment, you might as well watch 50 replays of the same drive along the ground to long on or off

well it true that the way things usually go in the middle overs is quite dull but i dont have a problem with it, but it will take time to get used to. Has i said i really like the idea of swapping players during a match.

 

[Jamee999]

I'm sure they'll be choking into their Pimms at Lords'

 

[aussie]

I'm sure they'll be choking into their Pimms at Lords'

i dont think they would that much since its a change with regard to ODI cricket, if it were test cricket then they will be really chocking on their pimms.

 

[tooextracool]

im completely against the substitution rule, it effectively means that every team now has an all rounder.

 

[Swervy]

I can guarantee that some people will be up in arms about this simply because it was mess the statistics etc

I personally like the sub thing..it has always frustrated me how your top bowler might go down injured early and thats it, you are in big trouble.

This way, squad strength comes into it a bit more.

A team might not be so sure about whether a pitch takes spin or not, and do a bit of subbing to get a spinner on etc

I think this opens up a whole new side of tactical thought in the ODI's, which is great IMO

 

[Swervy]

im completely against the substitution rule, it effectively means that every team now has an all rounder.

but the teams who genuinely have an allrounder are still at an advantage

 

[Scaly piscine]

Another thing I don't like about this is it's being 'trialled' for 10 whole months at the top level of cricket. You shouldn't be trialling something like this at the top level over that length of time.

 

[tooextracool]

but the teams who genuinely have an allrounder are still at an advantage

the key thing about ODIs though is how and when you bowl your 5th bowler(s). i dont really like the idea that most, if not all teams will now have 5 frontline bowlers in the side, and yet have 6 batsman + a keeper.

 

[Neil Pickup]

What I want to know is when you must confirm your starting XI by - before or after you know if you're batting or fielding first?

 

[Scaly piscine]

I can guarantee that some people will be up in arms about this simply because it was mess the statistics etc

I personally like the sub thing..it has always frustrated me how your top bowler might go down injured early and thats it, you are in big trouble.

This way, squad strength comes into it a bit more.

A team might not be so sure about whether a pitch takes spin or not, and do a bit of subbing to get a spinner on etc

I think this opens up a whole new side of tactical thought in the ODI's, which is great IMO

If your top bowler goes down injured you're still stuffed because that means instead of subbing that guy for a batsman after they've bowled their 10 you have to sub him for another bowler. The whole subbing crap just makes the game a 12 man (11 bat, 11 bowl) game.

 

[Neil Pickup]

the key thing about ODIs though is how and when you bowl your 5th bowler(s). i dont really like the idea that most, if not all teams will now have 5 frontline bowlers in the side, and yet have 6 batsman + a keeper.

I would say that the fact that you have marmite dross inevitably filling ten overs is a particularly bad thing, and this irons it out.

 

[Swervy]

the key thing about ODIs though is how and when you bowl your 5th bowler(s). i dont really like the idea that most, if not all teams will now have 5 frontline bowlers in the side, and yet have 6 batsman + a keeper.

but surely that will actually raise the standard of play..you will have more top flight bowlers bowling to more top flight batsmen

 

[Swervy]

If your top bowler goes down injured you're still stuffed because that means instead of subbing that guy for a batsman after they've bowled their 10 you have to sub him for another bowler. The whole subbing crap just makes the game a 12 man (11 bat, 11 bowl) game.

but not as stuffed as if you didnt have a new bowler to take his place

Does having 3 subs in football make football a 14 man game...well in one sense I guess it does, but really its still 11 on the pitch.

 

[aussie]

I would say that the fact that you have marmite dross inevitably filling ten overs is a particularly bad thing, and this irons it out.

well in a way things will become more competitive.

 

[Scaly piscine]

I think the rule changes are the worst, most faffy way of altering things. Removing the 10 over per bowler limit (or raising it to 15 etc.) would have addressed the "marmite dross inevitably filling ten overs" far better than the substitute rule, it also gives the captain more input. I also personally would have preferred to have seen the maximum number of fielders outside the circle reduced to 3 for after the 15 overs.

 

[aussie]

I also personally would have preferred to have seen the maximum number of fielders outside the circle reduced to 3 for after the 15 overs.

nahhhhhhhhh, isn't ODI's too much a batsman game already come on thats killing the bowlers, i would rather an extra man in 5 players outside the circle after the 1st 15.