Starc vs Brett Lee

[Sunil1z]

Who is the better pace bowler in Test ?

 

[subshakerz]

Starc because he was somewhat better in SC and England. Also capable of the odd jaffa in the middle of an ordinary spell.

 

[Sunil1z]

Looks like people don’t rate Lee at all. ?

 

[Senile Sentry]

Has to be Brett Lee. Especially how he aged like a fine wine with time and how he bore the burden of Aus after McGrath and Warne retired. Such a difficult time but Lee upped his game accordingly. It was incredible to see him sending down 155 kph thunderbolts at the fag end of a summer in 2008 repeatedly. He was then poorly managed. Used like both strike and stock bowler by Ponting, especially in the 2008 India tour where he was overbooked like heck. That probably accelerated his departure from cricket which happened by the end of that year. I think Lee could have played a year ot two more in tests

Starc has been fortunate to be handled well by CA. His LOI workload has been much less as compared to Lee's.

 

[subshakerz]

Has to be Brett Lee. Especially how he aged like a fine wine with time and how he bore the burden of Aus after McGrath and Warne retired. Such a difficult time but Lee upped his game accordingly. It was incredible to see him sending down 155 kph thunderbolts at the fag end of a summer in 2008 repeatedly. He was then poorly managed. Used like both strike and stock bowler by Ponting, especially in the 2008 India tour where he was overbooked like heck. That probably accelerated his departure from cricket which happened by the end of that year. I think Lee could have played a year ot two more in tests

Starc has been fortunate to be handled well by CA. His LOI workload has been much less as compared to Lee's.

He had his worldclass phase from 2007 to 2008 but it didn't last long enough to mitigate against his ordinariness beforehand.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Starc is a significantly worse bowler than what his average conveys at glance but he's still a clearly better bowler than Lee.

 

[Flem274*]

Starc is underrated imo because he has the happy knack of taking wickets with filth (along with great balls) which rubs fans the wrong way.

He'd make a rubbish lone ranger but he's very useful as a cog in the wheel.

 

[Spark]

Lee was genuinely mediocre for a loooong stretch of his career. Arguably net negative in the 05 Ashes in particular.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Starc is underrated imo because he has the happy knack of taking wickets with filth (along with great balls) which rubs fans the wrong way.

It's not this for me, it's more that he gives away runs that don't show up in his stats (Byes that aren't called wides) and that he has a massive difference between his pink ball and red ball numbers (Average of 18 in D/N tests, almost 30 in day tests). Not that D/N tests shouldn't count, but still.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Mitchell Starc better than Lee in Tests. However, in ODI's its a very close matchup.

 

[Spark]

It's not this for me, it's more that he gives away runs that don't show up in his stats (Byes that aren't called wides) and that he has a massive difference between his pink ball and red ball numbers (Average of 18 in D/N tests, almost 30 in day tests). Not that D/N tests shouldn't count, but still.

Haha Lee definitely gave away a **** ton of "byes" in that 2001-2006 period though.

 

[CricketFan90s]

I personally like Brett Lee as he was very intimidating in ODI’s.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Haha Lee definitely gave away a **** ton of "byes" in that 2001-2006 period though.

Oh yeah, obviously. I said above for all his faults, Starc is better than Lee.

Doesn't mean all the criticism aimed with Starc aimed at isn't valid though. If he was just taking wickets with filth like Flem said, I would rate him higher, it's more than that

 

[Burgey]

Has to be Brett Lee. Especially how he aged like a fine wine with time and how he bore the burden of Aus after McGrath and Warne retired. Such a difficult time but Lee upped his game accordingly. It was incredible to see him sending down 155 kph thunderbolts at the fag end of a summer in 2008 repeatedly. He was then poorly managed. Used like both strike and stock bowler by Ponting, especially in the 2008 India tour where he was overbooked like heck. That probably accelerated his departure from cricket which happened by the end of that year. I think Lee could have played a year ot two more in tests

Starc has been fortunate to be handled well by CA. His LOI workload has been much less as compared to Lee's.

Lee had one good year at the beginning of his career and one at the end. In between he was terribad.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Australia All Time ODI XI
1) Adam Gilchrist+
2) Mark Waugh (4 Overs)
3) Ricky Ponting*
4) Michael Clarke (2 Overs)
5) Andrew Symonds (5 Overs)
6) Michael Bevan
7) Shane Watson (6 Overs)
8) Brett Lee (8 Overs)
9) Shane Warne (9 Overs)
10) Mitchell Starc (8 Overs)
11) Glenn McGrath (8 Overs)

Can any Team defeat this Invincible Australian ODI Team ?

 

[subshakerz]

Starc is underrated imo because he has the happy knack of taking wickets with filth (along with great balls) which rubs fans the wrong way.

He'd make a rubbish lone ranger but he's very useful as a cog in the wheel.

Filth and jaffas.