subshakerz
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As the title suggests.
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Players with full careers who would have had better records in other teams
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Send Sir Cook to Bangladesh.
Send Sir Cook to Bangladesh.
Nintendo
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Does macgill count? Don't know if he averages less but he would have played a ton more cricket.
Tons of batsmen from that era aswell. There was a guy from nz who was gun against pace and bounce but couldn't play spin to save his life, maybe has a better career in SA/AUS? A
Tons of batsmen from that era aswell. There was a guy from nz who was gun against pace and bounce but couldn't play spin to save his life, maybe has a better career in SA/AUS? A
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Stephen Fleming - averaged 33 in NZ and 65 in Asia.
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Nintendo
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Good shout, honestly. Is root a similiar situation? Good in england, but his record in Asia is also phenomenal. Openers have a fairly easy time in SL, could imagine him producing moster numbers if he played his home games there and walked in at ~2\50+
Root is pretty good around the world - only in Australia does he have a mediocre record over a prolonged period.
Cook - average career 45 but 53 in Asia. Reckon he's the best English bat I've seen against spin, just not as flashy as Root or KP (who was Jekyll and Hyde against spin anyway).
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A **** load of Australian 130kph swing/seam merchants who were decent at best bowlers in Aus conditions could have had good Test careers in England.
Likewise decent SENA spinners in Asia would have ended up with much better records (assuming they could get a game over the other Asian spinners)
Likewise decent SENA spinners in Asia would have ended up with much better records (assuming they could get a game over the other Asian spinners)
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Like that Pattinson fellow showed us back in 2008. I think Aussie batters in there 90s/00s who came over and dominated the county game would've had a stronger case than the seamers.
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In all seriousness, kind of did. Pattinson wasn't even a Shield regular for Victoria but gained selection for England. Then the game he played he was probably England's best bowler on a flat wicket against a very strong SA batting line-up. He bowled better than (or at the very least comparably too) Jimmy Anderson, Andrew Flintoff and Stuart Broad . . .
It's looked back on as a mistake (rightfully so) because of the uproar around his selection, as he shouldn't have been picked to play for England being Australian through-and through. It wasn't because he wasn't any good because, again he wasn't any worse than the rest of England's bowlers in the game he played.
Regardless the bowlers I'm alluding to were all a lot better than club trundler Darren Pattinson
Terry Alderman of the Australian seamer type mentioned. Had a superb record in England
On the same theme as Ali TT, one of the WI quicks from the 1980s who would have had more opportunities elsewhere. Perhaps Sylvester Clarke
Taking the question literally, an easy answer is any of the 1970s or 80s South Africans.
On the same theme as Ali TT, one of the WI quicks from the 1980s who would have had more opportunities elsewhere. Perhaps Sylvester Clarke
Taking the question literally, an easy answer is any of the 1970s or 80s South Africans.
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The converse of this would be English batsmen that struggled a bit with the moving ball but handled pace and bounce well and might have done better in Australia. Again ignoring the "full careers" criteria I'm sure there would be a few in County cricket but I'm blanking for specific examples.
In recent times maybe Jason Roy. Might have had a decent run as opener for Australia alongside Warner. Also possible he would have just done what Finch did and has one ordinary Test series and then gone away
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He's significantly worse than Mike Hussey was at the same stage of his career. Not to mention probably a whole lot of others as well. So I doubt it
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A significant number of West Indian pacers in the 70s and 80s comes to mind before everything; especially the likes of Sylvester Clarke, Wayne Daniel and Winston Davis. Had they played for a team like India, they would had been ATGs here.