*Official* Second Test (Lord's, London) 28 June–2 July

[Magrat Garlick]

England squad: Ben Stokes (c); Jonny Bairstow (wk), Ollie Pope (vc/wk); Harry Brook, Zak Crawley, Ben Duckett, Dan Lawrence, Joe Root; James Anderson, Stuart Broad, Matthew Potts, Ollie Robinson, Josh Tongue, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood; Moeen Ali, Rehan Ahmed
Australia squad: Pat Cummins (c); Alex Carey (wk), Jimmy Peirson (wk); Marcus Harris, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Matt Renshaw, Steve Smith (vc), David Warner; Cameron Green, Mitchell Marsh; Scott Boland, Josh Hazlewood, Mitchell Starc; Nathan Lyon, Todd Murphy

 

[Lefty]

It’s surprising England have not named a second spin bowler as Ali may not be able recover in time from his finger injury.

England may end up selecting four pace bowlers plus Stokes and rely on Root to bowl spin.

 

[social]

It’s surprising England have not named a second spin bowler as Ali may not be able recover in time from his finger injury.

England may end up selecting four pace bowlers plus Stokes and rely on Root to bowl spin.

Mo wasn’t in the original squad (I don’t think) and got added when Leach was ruled out

Pretty sure that they can name replacements whenever

 

[Son Of Coco]

It’s surprising England have not named a second spin bowler as Ali may not be able recover in time from his finger injury.

England may end up selecting four pace bowlers plus Stokes and rely on Root to bowl spin.

I hope they bowl the **** out of Root.

 

[Lefty]

England have also not added a wicketkeeper to their squad. Bairstow missed too many chances at Edgbaston, England need a reliable keeper who can also bat well.

 

[ashley bach]

Australia Lords.

England need to do something tactically different here because go 2-0 down and it's basically goodbye to their Ashes campaign.

 

[Molehill]

Australia Lords.

England need to do something tactically different here because go 2-0 down and it's basically goodbye to their Ashes campaign.

I think times have changed a little. Yes they won in 2015, but lost in 2009 and 2013 and got saved by rain in 2019. Recently, Edgbaston has turned into a happier hunting ground.

I don't think England need to do much different, not like they weren't competitive despite making some daft mistakes.

 

[Prince EWS]

I don't think England need to do much different

Other than not declaring on Day 1 of course.

 

[ashley bach]

Other than not declaring on Day 1 of course.

As a stats man, out of curiosity have you ever recalled a 1st day declaration in test cricket before? (excluding minnows of course)

 

[trundler]

Historical precedence means next to squat really. The fact that Australia have done well at Lord's is mostly irrelevant to these two sides. I remember Imran Khan pointing out that no team had won a World Cup at home before the final in 2011 and used this fact to justify calling Sri Lanka favourites. Since then every WC has been won* by the home side.

 

[Prince EWS]

As a stats man, out of curiosity have you ever recalled a 1st day declaration in test cricket before? (excluding minnows of course)

Teams do it in pink ball Tests sometimes, and I can see the logic there. South Africa declared on like 270 on Day 1 against Aus iirc.

I can't remember it ever happening in a red ball Test though.

 

[Spark]

Clarke did it once in Test in India, declared nine down on Day 1.

We lost by an innings, and then people forgot to do their homework.

Edit: though it did lead to a certain Steve Smith getting a second shot at Test cricket. He made 90 odd in the next game, but I can't quite recall how he his career went after that...

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

I think times have changed a little. Yes they won in 2015, but lost in 2009 and 2013 and got saved by rain in 2019. Recently, Edgbaston has turned into a happier hunting ground.

Ironically just as ECB switched the 1st Ashes Test to Edgbaston because they always went 1-0 down at Lords...

 

[Molehill]

As a stats man, out of curiosity have you ever recalled a 1st day declaration in test cricket before? (excluding minnows of course)

Pretty certain I heard that this was the first time it had ever happened in an Ashes Test.

If we'd been 9 down with just Broad and Jimmy left, I doubt anyone would've questioned it.

 

[CartyDurham]

Tongue is an interesting bowler. He has pace

 

[ashley bach]

After doing a bit of homework, it looks like England became the 5th team in test cricket history to declare an innings on day one.
Given none of those teams won the match, early signs point to this tactic being none too wise.

 

[CartyDurham]

Is it not time to get over the declaration

there been loads of the same point about it

it’s gone

 

[ashley bach]

Is it not time to get over the declaration

there been loads of the same point about it

it’s gone

No, punishment doesn't end that quickly.

 

[CartyDurham]

I hope people are aware that the term Bazball is a media driven concept which McCullum cannot stand

it’s certainly got the interest of fans who don’t support England

a real ear worm

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

I hope people are aware that the term Bazball is a media driven concept which McCullum cannot stand

I have it on very good authority (@RossTaylorsBox I think) that this isn't actually true.