Neil Adcock vs Frank Tyson

[PlayerComparisons]

Two express bowlers

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Tyson at his fastest was definitely lot quicker but Adcock the better quick.

 

[sayon basak]

Thought this would be closer.

 

[Coronis]

Thought this would be closer.

Would’ve been nice if either played against the Windies.

 

[The Sean]

Someone (I think it was either @peterhrt or @Coronis) posted the bowling averages of everyone who played in the Tests Adcock did, which showed that while his average was very good, he played in exceptionally low scoring Tests as a rule and that there were others who played alongside him averaging less in the same matches.

The same may be true of Tyson, I'm not sure - but Frank's better record against Australia (particularly his superb 54/55) tour has me leaning his way on this one.

 

[Johan]

Frank Tyson won his side an Ashes so

 

[sayon basak]

Someone (I think it was either @peterhrt or @Coronis) posted the bowling averages of everyone who played in the Tests Adcock did, which showed that while his average was very good, he played in exceptionally low scoring Tests as a rule and that there were others who played alongside him averaging less in the same matches.

Yeah he played in matches where the aggregate average was 25.28.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;player_involve=973;template=results;type=aggregate

Although do think it has something to do with SA batters as well.

 

[Coronis]

Someone (I think it was either @peterhrt or @Coronis) posted the bowling averages of everyone who played in the Tests Adcock did, which showed that while his average was very good, he played in exceptionally low scoring Tests as a rule and that there were others who played alongside him averaging less in the same matches.

The same may be true of Tyson, I'm not sure - but Frank's better record against Australia (particularly his superb 54/55) tour has me leaning his way on this one.

Well lets see. (I’m going to specifically do it compared to other pace bowlers)

Adcock 104 @ 21.10
Other pacers 446 @ 24.66 (SA 26.05, Opposition 23.65)

Tyson 76 @ 18.56
Other pacers 291 @ 22.86 (ENG 23.07, Opposition 22.71)

 

[The Sean]

Actually it was Peter after all, as per the below:

His numbers are good but they came in a low-scoring era of sporting pitches. The exception was the batting-friendly Caribbean where Adcock never played. He never toured Australia either.

Averages of bowlers in the Tests when Adcock played. Qualification 20 wickets.

Wardle 15
Tyson 16
Davidson 17
Bailey 19
MacGibbon 20
Statham 20
Adcock 21
Benaud 21
Trueman 22
Heine 24
Reid 24
Tayfield 24
Goddard 28

It can be argued that he outbowled his teammates and faced better batsmen than most of his opponents. On the other hand he was supported by the best fielding side of the time.

 

[Coronis]

Actually it was Peter after all, as per the below:

His career does come in a relative down time for SA batting, after Nourse and Mitchell and before their the late 60’s greats