Most Underated from 95 - 06?

[PhoenixFire]

In any form of the game, bowler or batter, who is it.

I think that Jayasuriya, Dilshan and Gayle are all underated.

 

[UncleTheOne]

Why is Gayle underrated? He has decent records in both forms of the game, nothing special, but I don't see him getting any stick.

 

[PhoenixFire]

Basically, because of some of the stuff he has done which has gone unnoticed. One of the only players to hit 6 4s in an over, and not many people remember he has a test triple century against a fairly good SA attack.

 

[Goughy]

Off the top of my head, I would say Trescothick.

People always talk about certain failings and technical issues without commentating that he has been one of the more prolific players of the 21st century.

 

[Goughy]

Basically, because of some of the stuff he has done which has gone unnoticed. One of the only players to hit 6 4s in an over, and not many people remember he has a test triple century against a fairly good SA attack.

In a game where a million runs were scored, all 11 SA bowlers bowled and Boucher took a wicket!

Personally, If anything I would say Gayle is overrated. Certainly a good player but the glamour and excitement over value him in the public eye.

 

[silentstriker]

Off the top of my head, I would say Trescothick.

I don't know if I'd put him in the top ten batters playing today. Not that averages are everything, but averaging 43 in today's game is a bit underwhelming.

 

[Goughy]

Really? I don't really rate him to be all that good. I mean, a decent player to be sure, but is he great? I don't know if I'd put him in the top ten batters playing today. Not that averages are everything, but averaging 43 in today's game is a bit underwhelming.

Regarding your comments. I probably wouldn't put him in the top 10 of today but there is a difference in being great and very good. He is certainly very good.
Hence, He is definately underrated.

 

[silentstriker]

Regarding your comments. I probably wouldn't put him in the top 10 of today but there is a difference in being great and very good and very good. He is certainly very good.
Hence, He is definately underrated.

Well, I don't know if anyone considers him to be less than a good batsman. I'd probably put him in the VVS Laxman category. Great when in flow, but a bit too inconsistent to depend on.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Really? I don't really rate him to be all that good. I mean, a decent player to be sure, but is he great? I don't know if I'd put him in the top ten batters playing today. Not that averages are everything, but averaging 43 in today's game is a bit underwhelming.

After The Ashes his stock went up a fair bit, but before that his nickname might as well have been "The Much Maligned". Like Sehwag he employs a weight transference method when batting (i.e. eff all footwork) which, when he goes cheaply, makes him an easy target for armchair purists.

Not a great player, but certainly a very decent one.

I'd say Damien Martyn seems to be pretty undervalued too. The haste with which he was dispatched after The Ashes was undue.

 

[FRAZ]

Chaminda Vaas comes in my mind ! Not sooo behind the top rating fasties !!

 

[Dravid]

Irfan Pathan. Well not during the start of his career but now hes being underated.

 

[Goughy]

Really? I don't really rate him to be all that good. I mean, a decent player to be sure

Well, I don't know if anyone considers him to be less than a good batsman. I'd probably put him in the VVS Laxman category. Great when in flow, but a bit too inconsistent to depend on.

Is it me, but you seem to contradict yourself a little within the space of a couple of posts?

 

[aussie]

Lets see:

- Chanderpaul
- Reifell
- Trescothick
- Ijaz Ahmed
- Astle
- Jacobs
- Boucher
- Giles
- MacGill
- Lehmann

 

[silentstriker]

Is it me, but you seem to contradict yourself a little within the space of a couple of posts?

LOL! You are right, I did. I misspoke in my first post. He's good, not very good or great.

 

[silentstriker]

Like Sehwag he employs a weight transference method when batting (i.e. eff all footwork) which, when he goes cheaply, makes him an easy target for armchair purists.

Well, I'm not an armchair purist, I don't care if his legs are made of iron. As long as someone is consistent and scores runs, I don't care how they do it. I don't think Tresco (and Sehwag too) is consistent enough to be in the very good/great category.

 

[steds]

Dave Mohammed.

 

[Xuhaib]

Lets see:

- Chanderpaul
- Reifell
- Trescothick
- Ijaz Ahmed
- Astle
- Jacobs
- Boucher
- Giles
- MacGill
- Lehmann

Yea i remember at the time he was playing for Pakistan many people wished he gets out cheaply and in doing so looses his place in the team. People just hated Ijaz for some reason, looking back one has to admit Ijaz was a decent player who was massivley undervalued by his own country supporters.

 

[Goughy]

Well, I'm not an armchair purist, I don't care if his legs are made of iron. As long as someone is consistent and scores runs, I don't care how they do it. I don't think Tresco (and Sehwag too) is consistent enough to be in the very good/great category.

I wont argue with the great part but I will take issue with the consistent claim.

He has a higher median score than Tendulkar, Ponting, Inzi etc

Thanks to Hakon for doing the work

Bradman 48.5
Hayden 34
Dravid 33
Lara 31
Kallis 28
Trescothick 28
Ponting 27
Tendulkar 27
Inzamam 26
Langer 26
Fleming 24 (away 27)
Thorpe 20

He is also one of a tiny group of people to have scored over 1000 runs in 3 consecutive calander years since 2000.

 

[silentstriker]

I wont argue with the great part but I will take issue with the consistent claim.

Thats suprising, actually. Looking at his scorecard, he certainly seems inconsistent. Lots of single and double digit scores sandwiched between the big ones. So I guess he's a consistently OK batsman.

 

[silentstriker]

He is also one of a tiny group of people to have scored over 1000 runs in 3 consecutive calander years since 2000.

Well, England do play a lot more tests than anyone else, so I don't really rate that very high. That would be an achievement if everyone played the same number of tests. As in, if Don Bradman played for New Zealand, even he would have trouble amassing 1000 runs in a year.