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Marnus Labuschagne on course to be Australia greatest test match batsman
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Cricketer Of The Year
Marnis labuschagne vs adam voges? Who win?
Marnus Labuschagne's ascent to the higher echelons of Test batting was an extraordinary tale of making the most of an unexpected opportunity. During the Lord's Ashes Test against England in August 2019, Steven Smith was felled by Jofra Archer's bouncer and Labuschagne would become his concussion substitute - the first time in Test history the protocol had been used. By the end of the year he had eclipsed Smith as the leading Test run-scorer in the world, and locked in the No. 3 spot, in the midst of a prolific home summer that brought him four centuries in five matches against Pakistan and New Zealand including a double century at the SCG.
It was a far cry from a year previously when he had been the shock choice to bat No. 3 against India in Sydney, in just his third Test and with a first-class average in the low 30s, having been a surprise call-up to the 2018 tour of UAE to face Pakistan as Australia began to rebuild following the ball-tampering crisis.
Labuschagne was born in Klerksdorp, in South Africa's North West province, to South African parents. His family emigrated to Australia in 2004 when he was 10. He grew up speaking Afrikaans, and only became fluent in English after moving to Australia. Before his international call-up he had been best known for his work as a substitute short leg fielder for Australia taking a superb catch off Nathan Lyon in the 2014 Brisbane Test against India. He made 83 on his Sheffield Shield debut for Queensland in 2014 and was the second leading run-scorer in the 2017-18 Sheffield Shield season scoring 795 runs at 39.75 with two centuries.
In his first two Test against Pakistan it was his useful legspin - something he would continue to develop - that stood out as much as his batting as he took eight wickets while showing a glimmer of his potential with the bat in Abu Dhabi. Following the recall against India, he made a composed 81 in the pink-ball Test against Sri Lanka in Brisbane but did not receive a Cricket Australia contract despite being an incumbent in the Test team.
What came next was a key part of his story as he signed for Glamorgan for the first part of the 2019 county season where he would churn out 1114 runs in 10 matches, honing his technique against the moving Duke ball and then winning the race for a spot in the Ashes squad.
An attacking batsman who seemed destined to go through his career without a baggy green, Adam Voges finally earned one at 35 years of age, and became the oldest man in Test history to score a century on debut. His unbeaten 130 against West Indies in Dominica also ensured that he would be part of Australia's starting XI for the 2015 Ashes series that followed, and although he struggled for impact in the first three Tests, he managed a pair of fifties towards the end of Australia's unsuccessful campaign.
Not only did Voges retain the faith of the selectors, after the post-Ashes retirements of Michael Clarke, Chris Rogers, Shane Watson and Brad Haddin, he was even made vice-captain to Steven Smith for the Test tour of Bangladesh in the absence of the newly-appointed vice-captain David Warner due to injury. Security concerns led to that series being postponed, but Voges made up for the lost opportunity by scoring 269*, 106* and 239 in three innings against West Indies and New Zealand in the 2015-16 season. He retired from international cricket on Valentine's Day 2017 - with an average of 61.87, the second highest for anyone after Donald Bradman among those to have played 20 matches - and then from domestic cricket a month later.
Voges' promotion to the Test side came after a remarkable 2014-15 season in which he plundered 1358 runs at 104.46 in the Sheffield Shield, including six centuries from 11 matches. His numbers were so impressive that the selectors could not ignore him for the tour of the West Indies in 2015, nearly nine years after he had first been part of an Australian Test squad. In 2006-07 he was a surprise inclusion after the mid-Ashes retirement of Damien Martyn, but Voges did not debut during that series and until his mid-30s had to settle for being an ODI and T20 international cricketer. Even in those formats he was never really a fixture in the side, although there might have been a few more appearances had he not chosen to get married rather than joining Australia on their tour of South Africa in 2009. As it happened, it took him more than six years to reach 30 one-day internationals, despite averaging in the mid- to high-40s when given the chance.
Voges had originally made his name with a 62-ball century in 2004-05, which was then the fastest in Australia's domestic one-day history. Not only did he break a record, he also clattered a sponsor's sign with one of seven sixes. Voges collected many plaudits for the innings and a $50,000 bonus for superb aim. He was named captain of Western Australia in 2012 having often filled the role previously in a stand-in capacity and was a semi-regular county cricketer during the off-season. Voges has played for Nottinghamshire, Middlesex and Hampshire. An effective T20 striker and athletic fieldsman, Voges has played in the IPL and the Caribbean Premier League, and captained the Perth Scorchers to the BBL title in 2014-15.
ESPNcricinfo staff
Marnus currently has the second highest average ICC Batting Rating of all time.
http://www.lanefarm.plus.com/cricket/ratings/batting.htm
http://www.lanefarm.plus.com/cricket/ratings/batting.htm
Ranking | Name | Tm | Batting Rating |
1 | Don Bradman | Aus | 951.4 |
2 | Marnus Labuschagne | Aus | 907.8 |
3 | Steven (SPD) Smith | Aus | 858.8 |
4 | Everton Weekes | WI | 836.8 |
5 | Len Hutton | Eng | 836.0 |
6 | Joe Root | Eng | 829.6 |
7 | Dudley Nourse | SA | 826.9 |
8 | Graeme Pollock | SA | 824.4 |
9 | Garry Sobers | WI | 821.5 |
10 | Jack Hobbs | Eng | 816.8 |
11 | Ken Barrington | Eng | 815.7 |
12 | Brian Lara | WI | 813.6 |
13 | Peter May | Eng | 812.2 |
14 | Herbert Sutcliffe | Eng | 809.1 |
15 | Kumar Sangakkara | SL | 806.2 |
HeathDavisSpeed
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
ITSTL. If I look at the ICC ratings website, I get very different scores for the batting ratings - e.g. Kane Williamson's highest was 919, Smith's 947 etc.
EDIT: Ah, I see, it's average. Which is a pretty meaningless statistic if a batsman had one random poor patch, debuted too early or went on too long.
EDIT: Ah, I see, it's average. Which is a pretty meaningless statistic if a batsman had one random poor patch, debuted too early or went on too long.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Poor man's Daryl Mitchell imo
Dazza already has three times as many away 100s as Marnus, while Harry Brook has 4x as many.
Dazza already has three times as many away 100s as Marnus, while Harry Brook has 4x as many.
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Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Just think: he's probably less than half way through his Test career.
Projecting forwards then, we can expect him to have achieved an average rating of ~2000 by the time he's done.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
I see Travis Head is ahead (no pun intended) of Viv in this rating!??
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
Where have these ratings come from? Because they are not (mean) average ICC ratings. No one has an average ICC rating above 900, not even Bradman - due to the fact it takes every player a while to build their rating from scratch and that the first 20 innings or so are weighted lower.
Bradman's average rating from memory is 850-odd, which is still a long way ahead of everyone else.
a massive zebra
International Captain
The Sean
Cricketer Of The Year
Thanks. So they're his modified version of the ICC ratings, removing things like the early matches weighting and missed matched penalty and adding some of his own stuff to recalculate accordingly.
Will be interesting to see what that does to a lot of the ratings. DK Lillee's rating in particular, both peak and average, should get a big boost - he lost over 200 points missing all the Tests during WSC and the Ashes tour in 1977 which preceded it.
SillyCowCorner1
Moooo
Still better than Bradman's
ICC Ratings factors in quality of opposition, quality of bowlers and how high scoring the Tests are.
It highlights how impressive their average performance is and how much they stand out compared to everyone else in the games they play in.
One of the ways you can get a better metric is if you adjust the ratings by weighing longevity.
Marnus has an insanely high ICC Rating because he has faced (comparatively to others) a lot of highly rated bowlers. The RPW in the Tests he has played in are lower then the historical average.
His ICC Rating barely dropped in his last series in India because of how low the scoring the Tests were, quality of bowlers and quality of opposition.
It highlights how impressive their average performance is and how much they stand out compared to everyone else in the games they play in.
One of the ways you can get a better metric is if you adjust the ratings by weighing longevity.
Marnus has an insanely high ICC Rating because he has faced (comparatively to others) a lot of highly rated bowlers. The RPW in the Tests he has played in are lower then the historical average.
His ICC Rating barely dropped in his last series in India because of how low the scoring the Tests were, quality of bowlers and quality of opposition.
