Kim Hughes vs Allan Lamb

[BazBall21]

Maybe two of the best middle order test batsmen to average below 40 since 1970.

 

[Coronis]

Maybe two of the best middle order test batsmen to average below 40 since 1970.

Wait til Kohli finishes

 

[trundler]

Maybe two of the best middle order test batsmen to average below 40 since 1970.

Needs more Faf

 

[vidiq]

Maybe two of the best middle order test batsmen to average below 40 since 1970.

Maybe two of the best middle order test batsmen to average below 40 since 1970.

Few more prominent examples are B Watling , Johnny Bairstow , Ben stokes , ravi Jadeja .

 

[BazBall21]

Few more prominent examples are B Watling , Johnny Bairstow , Ben stokes , ravi Jadeja .

Rahane is in the mix. Though I'm not sure he had the temperament to average significantly more in a flatter set of tests.

 

[Johan]

I'm pretty sure Lamb has the most tons against mighty Windies.

 

[Johan]

110(260) from 36-3, vs Marshall and Garner at Lords.

100(186) from 53-3, vs Marshall, Holding and Garner at Headingley

100*(185) from 117-3, vs Holding and Garner at Old Trafford.

113(212) from 31-3, vs Marshall, Ambrose and Walsh at Lords.

132(205) from 60-2, vs Marshall, Bishop and Walsh at Sabina Park.

119(224) from 46-2, vs Marshall, Bishop and Ambrose at Kensington Oval.

 

[vidiq]

110(260) from 36-3, vs Marshall and Garner at Lords.

100(186) from 53-3, vs Marshall, Holding and Garner at Headingley

100*(185) from 117-3, vs Holding and Garner at Old Trafford.

113(212) from 31-3, vs Marshall, Ambrose and Walsh at Lords.

132(205) from 60-2, vs Marshall, Bishop and Walsh at Sabina Park.

119(224) from 46-2, vs Marshall, Bishop and Ambrose at Kensington Oval.

If he succeeded against the best bolwers, then how did he averaged below 40?
Is he similar to kl Rahul ? Who can score hundreds against Top Bowlers in some extreme pitches yet very inconsistent overall.

 

[Johan]

If he succeeded against the best bolwers, then how did he averaged below 40?
Is he similar to kl Rahul ? Who can score hundreds against Top Bowlers in some extreme pitches yet very inconsistent overall.

that's actually quite a good analogy, he's better than Rahul imo but Lamb's problem was the lack of consistency, he made 6 hundreds against West Indies but only 2 fifties, even tho he made 6 centuries his average against West Indies is 34, a huge consistency problem.

 

[Johan]

I think a better equivalent for Lamb than Rahul would be Ben Stokes, both can play some insane knocks from tough situations against great bowling but just a tad too inconsistent

 

[BazBall21]

that's actually quite a good analogy, he's better than Rahul imo but Lamb's problem was the lack of consistency, he made 6 hundreds against West Indies but only 2 fifties, even tho he made 6 centuries his average against West Indies is 34, a huge consistency problem.

While not as good a player, I think one of Lamb's problems was similar to the Mark Waugh case. 14 Test tons yet none of them finished as scores of 150+. He was also dismissed in 11 of them. That's why he averaged 36 instead of 40. His series v WI in 1984 was a good example. 3 hundreds but hardly any runs combined after crossing three digits.

Stokes is a good comparison as they both excel v HTD bowling (Lamb even moreso) but weren't run machines and are much more fallible v spin. The comparison even extends to ODI. That was their strongest format respectively.

 

[Johan]

While not as good a player, I think one of Lamb's problems was similar to the Mark Waugh case. 14 Test tons yet none of them finished as scores of 150+. He was also dismissed in 11 of them. That's why he averaged 36 instead of 40. His series v WI in 1984 was a good example. 3 hundreds but hardly any runs combined after crossing three digits.

Yeah, lack of big hundreds, high ceiling but like many English bats of the era, didn't reach his full potential.