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Kapil Dev Vs MD Shami
- Thread starter vidiq
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Thala_0710
International Debutant
I mean Shami hasn't done well away from home either. There are 6 Indian bowlers with 80+ away wickets. 5 of them average above 30 there, Bumrah avgs below 20. It's ridiculous.
Thala_0710
International Debutant
Ishant definitely did well in that period but those are what 16 games? Remove 2 games from that in the WI and the average jumps to 23.36 with a WPM of 3.5. So still pretty good but not nearly Bumrah level.
Thala_0710
International Debutant
Kapil has a slightly better match factor as Shami (1.09 vs 1.05). He was the leader of the pace attack, and bowled around 6-7 more overs per game than Shami had to. Also has much more longevity, greater fitness.
Kapil ahead for me.
Kapil ahead for me.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Kapil Dev
* Played for much longer time
* Legacy - First proper fast bowler from India in 5 decades
* He was a lone wolf
* His record in WI was very good
1st series : 17 wickets @ 24
2nd series : 18 wickets @ 21 with 2 5-Fers
* His record in Aus was just as good
1st series : 14 wickets @ 23 with 2 5-Fers
2nd series : 12 wickets @ 23
3rd series : 25 wickets @ 25
Against the best team of his generation and arguably the greatest team ever; Kapil Dev took 89 wickets at an average of 24.90.
* Played for much longer time
* Legacy - First proper fast bowler from India in 5 decades
* He was a lone wolf
* His record in WI was very good
1st series : 17 wickets @ 24
2nd series : 18 wickets @ 21 with 2 5-Fers
* His record in Aus was just as good
1st series : 14 wickets @ 23 with 2 5-Fers
2nd series : 12 wickets @ 23
3rd series : 25 wickets @ 25
Against the best team of his generation and arguably the greatest team ever; Kapil Dev took 89 wickets at an average of 24.90.
Shami in Eng underperformed massively .
Each ball were looking scary due to wild swing and seam movement.
And He was able to generate massive amount swing and seam but no control over the line and length.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Why does he want to talk about England specifically?
The best team of that era was the legendary WestIndies team and Kapil averages 24.9.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
That must mean his record everywhere else was ass though, no?
May be because he was a Swing bowler and Eng is the best place for swing bolwers.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Kinda a **** comparison, especially since Shami is mid in England as well.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Who is this Ramaraj?
Seems like he just discovered his cricinfo stats and decided to tweet about it.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Might be controversial, but Kapil's away record is overhated. The only place he flopped completely is NZ. Great in WI and Australia, good in England (as an all-rounder, not a bowler. As a bowler his English record is poorish, but he makes up with his batting. Dude has 3 MoTM and a MoS there, helping India in a Series win), fine in Pakistan (bowling is actually good, underperformed with the bat) and a Great century in 3 games in SA. Not pretty numbers, but deep dive and it's a perfectly good away record.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Don't get how that can be controversial.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Kapil wasn’t a great bowler.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Shami’s record also isn’t that impressive.
Avg of 40 in England.
Avg of 32 in Australia.
Avg of 40 in England.
Avg of 32 in Australia.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
32 avg in Australia, mostly in the highway era, is bad!!???