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Goat pacer vs great batting all rounder. Who was the more valuable player iyo?
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Jacques Kallis vs Glenn Mcgrath
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Coronis
International Coach
Caught a big fish with this one.
TheJediBrah
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Impressively succinctly put
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Bit harsh on McGrath
SillyCowCorner1
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This is a tough one
shortpitched713
International Captain
My theory is that he's an alt for a regular drafter on the forum. Just wants to gather intel from his fellow posters, so will put up all sorts of these comparisons. There's no other plausible reason I can think of. And generally, they're rather harmless, if spammy.
Either that or he's archiving CW opinions to create present day archeological evidence for use by his future alien civilization, of which he is a particular time traveling member.
Coronis
International Coach
I’m taking Kallis as a bowler in Bangladesh any day of the week though.
shortpitched713
International Captain
I'll take McGrath as a bowler over Kallis as a batsman, by a decent margin. As an overall cricketer I would have to go Kallis, I suppose, but anyway because McGrath has so few votes, I'm voting for him.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
So @PlayerComparisons is Kang?
shortpitched713
International Captain
Lol, hell if I know. It's just a theory, a game .... I'll see myself out.
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Probably not Prime Kang... just an alternate.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
McGrath.
2nd best pacer of all-time better than 20-25th batsman of all-time and a useful bowler.
How much of a game changer was Kallis' bowling really? He is not winning matches on his own or even bowling the load of a main bowler. Compared to Imran, who was good enough to bat in the top 6/7, or Sobers who was a regular fourth bowler, Kallis' figures flatter him a bit.
I am all for five bowling options but in test cricket it is still a luxury. Can't compromise on primary strength.
2nd best pacer of all-time better than 20-25th batsman of all-time and a useful bowler.
How much of a game changer was Kallis' bowling really? He is not winning matches on his own or even bowling the load of a main bowler. Compared to Imran, who was good enough to bat in the top 6/7, or Sobers who was a regular fourth bowler, Kallis' figures flatter him a bit.
I am all for five bowling options but in test cricket it is still a luxury. Can't compromise on primary strength.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Would you rate Shaun Pollock ahead of McGrath as a cricketer? I wouldn't. For me, Kallis similar.
Coronis
International Coach
His role wasn’t to win matches with the ball, but he did on occasion. His role was to support the rest of the SA bowling unit, which I think he did an admirable job of through his career.
An example of him (imo) winning a match with his bowling would be at Leeds in 2003. Kirsten got MOTM for a first innings 130. Kallis took 3/38 in the first (sending England from 1/169 to 4/197) and 6/54 in the second (sending England from 5/169 to 9/206). In both innings he broke the largest partnership and took the wickets of the two highest runscorers.
Not comparing him to other allrounders since thats not this thread.. but compared to McGrath he could win matches with his batting, and make sizeable contributions consistently with both his bowling and fielding. McGrath could only win matches with his bowling (more than Kallis’ batting obviously) but was really a non factor as a batsman and fielder. Kallis could affect the game in more ways and overall is a more unique and valuable player in my opinion.