Ian Botham vs Fred Trueman

[Johan]

a guy who lost to Root vs a guy who lost to Hammond, better Cricketer? Considering it's AR vs specialist month.

 

[kyear2]

Fred is an ATG bowling performer.

 

[Johan]

was not expecting Fred to be winning

 

[Johan]

@BazBall21 your opinion?

 

[Johan]

@capt_Luffy You're not allowed to vote for Fred after what you did, bugger off

 

[subshakerz]

Trueman, just. He is a top ten pacers for me.

 

[Johan]

Trueman, just. He is a top ten pacers for me.

Yeah I have him ~ Lillee, cry about it @capt_Luffy

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah I have him ~ Lillee, cry about it @capt_Luffy

You forgot I don't rate Lillee that highly either. Certainly these 2, WI duo and Lindwall could go any way

 

[Johan]

You forgot I don't rate Lillee that highly either. Certainly these 2, WI duo and Lindwall could go any way

Wasim is in the same tier as Lillee and Trueman lil bro, the gaps between ATG pacers are very small

 

[capt_Luffy]

Wasim is in the same tier as Lillee and Trueman lil bro, the gaps between ATG pacers are very small

Agree. But I would put Wasim in the one above with Steyn, Ambrose and Imran, though at the bottom

 

[The Sean]

You forgot I don't rate Lillee that highly either. Certainly these 2, WI duo and Lindwall could go any way

Not sure I'd rank Roach and Gabriel quite that high.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Not sure I'd rank Roach and Gabriel quite that high.

I was talking of Alzarri and Tino Best though

 

[The Sean]

I was talking of Alzarri and Tino Best though

Ah, my mistake - right you are then.

 

[BazBall21]

@BazBall21 your opinion?

Botham has a bigger body of work overseas but was weaker v the best team of his era and Trueman was definitely built for better longevity. Very tough. I tend to go for Botham.

 

[sayon basak]

I was talking of Alzarri and Tino Best though

I thought you were talking about Anderson Cummins.

 

[Johan]

Agree. But I would put Wasim in the one above with Steyn, Ambrose and Imran, though at the bottom

nah, don't see that at all. I got Donald, Holding, Garner, Lillee and Trueman on the same tier, Wasim doesn't diffrentiate himself from that tier

 

[sayon basak]

Agree. But I would put Wasim in the one above with Steyn, Ambrose and Imran, though at the bottom

Akram is overrated.

 

[Johan]

Akram is overrated.

Wasim has more caveats than someone like Holding but he gets away with it because he has a nice smile or smth

 

[sayon basak]

Wasim has more caveats than someone like Holding but he gets away with it because he has a nice smile or smth

Look at the delivery at 5:35.

 

[Johan]

Look at the delivery at 5:35.

amazing pace, WACA is made for him, he also has 274 @ 22.23 barring his debut series (I counted WSC), also like 48 strike rate, pretty underrated because of his final tally, @capt_Luffy cope.