Height vs pace: which is more important for pace bowler success?

[subshakerz]

Assuming you had a pacer around 6'0 bowling accurately at 80 to 85mph, and you had the option of giving him either 7-8 inches extra in height or 10mph in average extra in pace, what would you you choose to give to make him more effective,assuming same level of accuracy?

 

[ataraxia]

Assuming you had a seam pacer around 6'0 bowling accurately at 80 to 85mph, and you had the option of giving him either 7-8 inches extra in height or 10mph in average extra in pace, what would you you choose to give to make him more effective?

A guy who bowled 145–153 kph on average while accurate and seaming it would be the 2nd incarnation of Jesus.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Assuming you had a pacer around 6'0 bowling accurately at 80 to 85mph, and you had the option of giving him either 7-8 inches extra in height or 10mph in average extra in pace, what would you you choose to give to make him more effective,assuming same level of accuracy?

Definitely pace for me if he's already accurate.

 

[subshakerz]

A guy who bowled 145–153 kph on average while accurate and seaming it would be the 2nd incarnation of Jesus.

What about swing?

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Just simulate this in Cricket '24

 

[bagapath]

Assuming you had a pacer around 6'0 bowling accurately at 80 to 85mph, and you had the option of giving him either 7-8 inches extra in height or 10mph in average extra in pace, what would you you choose to give to make him more effective,assuming same level of accuracy?

To start with we have Kapil Dev. And the options are to make him either Tom Moody or Dale Steyn.

 

[BazBall21]

Release point > pace as long as the big release point bowler is quick enough.

Accurate high release fast medium is very successful in test cricket.

 

[BazBall21]

Donald and Holding really were next level monsters. 6ft4, rapid and fairly accurate.

 

[subshakerz]

Release point > pace as long as the big release point bowler is quick enough.

Accurate high release fast medium is very successful in test cricket.

Yeah I don't think many here understand how 6'0 is a somewhat disadvantage unless you are a skidder like Steyn and Marshall.

 

[mr_mister]

Pretty remarkable Marshall has the GOAT status while being the shortest of the ATG quicks

 

[thierry henry]

@thierry henry

 

[Starfighter]

Pretty remarkable Marshall has the GOAT status while being the shortest of the ATG quicks

He was taller than Trueman, Lindwall and Steyn

 

[mr_mister]

He was taller than Trueman, Lindwall and Steyn

Was he really taller than Steyn?

 

[Starfighter]

Was he really taller than Steyn?

I've seen 178 to 179 for Steyn over the years but AFAIK Marshall was 180 or so. Not really a lot in it, but technically true. Both Trueman and Lindwall were about 5'10"/178.

And FTR all those would actually be above average for their respective time periods.

 

[Bolo.]

Pace is better than height.

Pace tends to come at the expense of control though, so height is a better predictor of success.

 

[Aritro]

Height if we're talking 6'7 with good accuracy. Getting steep bounce is a huge advantage, especially off a driveable length. You could extract bounce and carry from any surface as well.

 

[subshakerz]

To start with we have Kapil Dev. And the options are to make him either Tom Moody or Dale Steyn.

Steyns average was around 85mph. He only cranked it 90mph rarely.

 

[Starfighter]

Average speed of 90-95 MPH for the faster bowler. Talking Shoaib levels of pace there.

 

[kyear2]

How fast was Holding on average? High 80's, low 90's?

 

[subshakerz]

How fast was Holding on average? High 80's, low 90's?

Slightly higher I would assume.