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Guard of Off sTump

deeps

deeps

International 12th Man
I was just wondering if there is a problem with a guard of off stump! i played a game last week,and the bowler kept complaining that he couldn't see the stumps... I have scrummaged through the rule book,and couldn't find nething about it... The umpire wasn't sure either


So is there a rule that says the bowler has to be able to see the stumps? or one stump? or something like that? or am i correct in saying that the batsman can stand on whatver guard he pleases?
 
Andre

Andre

International Regular
There isn't a problem with it - it's just fairly stupid, because if you get hit on the pad its a higher chance of hitting the stumps!
 
deeps

deeps

International 12th Man
Andre said:
There isn't a problem with it - it's just fairly stupid, because if you get hit on the pad its a higher chance of hitting the stumps!
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yeeah, but i hardly ever get hit on the pads! for some strange reason..must be my technique or something... But yeah, i used to have a bit of trouble with spinners hitting me on the pads, but i'm usually too far forward to be given out!

yeah, so it's ok it seeMS! i was wondering what the bowler was on about,coz in all these years,i've never had a problem...and then the bowler confused me,so i just wanted 2 make sure
 
Eclipse

Eclipse

International Debutant
Like Andre said it's quite risky to take guard on off stump.

I always take middle and leg.

As far as I am concerned it's by far the best guard to take but it seem's most people like middle.
 
deeps

deeps

International 12th Man
i think it dpends on a batsmen's strengths...if a batsmans' good on his pads, a guard of offstump would help...weak on his pads, move to leg.. dunno,probaly just personal preference! i used off stump right from the word go,and now i know exactly where my stumps are! i can leave a ball that misses my stumps by a about 10 cm and know it wont hit!
 
Eclipse

Eclipse

International Debutant
I am not week of the pad's at all but I just feel like I can play all my shots better batting on middle and leg.

I am more than happy steping infront of middle or offstump to play of my pads through midwicket so it's got nothing to do with being scared of LBW's.

Having said that I do preffer to play through the offside most of the time. It's Just a preffrance nothing wrong with my legside play I just like the feeling of playing through the offside more.

Having said that there is no shot I like more than a cracking ondive or pullshot the ondrive in particular because if I play it well I know I am in good form.
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
Craig McMillan used to take guard on off-stump to the spinners. Even today, while he takes guard on middle, he actually bats atound off, probably even slightly outside it, because he takes a solid step across well before the ball is bowled. The same goes for Ross Taylor, a young up and comer on the NZ scene. By the time the ball is bowled, he is pretty much taking guard about 6 inches outside off-stump. It's true that if they miss a straight one they'll be out, but isn't that the same regardless of where you take guard?
 
Eclipse

Eclipse

International Debutant
My normal footwork is the same as what Ponting does he comes forward and accross but as we know he is brilliant at rocking onto the backfoot.

I probably dont cover my offstump as well as I should on the backfoot defensive.
 
twctopcat

twctopcat

International Regular
Eclipse said:
My normal footwork is the same as what Ponting does he comes forward and accross but as we know he is brilliant at rocking onto the backfoot.

I probably dont cover my offstump as well as I should on the backfoot defensive.
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It's fine so long as you've got quick hands and feet, just look at Darren Lehmann, basically leaves leg stump showing he's so far across!
 
Richard

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Good batsmen do, though.
:P
Often in youth impression-of-cricket (ie under-8, under-9 sort of thing) you're not allowed to take off, but that's just because people need to be able to see the stumps to aim then, and it's generally not a good idea so to coach it out at an early age is generally a good idea.
 
Langeveldt

Langeveldt

Soutie
I used to take guard on leg stump when I shuffelled across a la Kim Barnett or Strydom... However since compacting myself up a lot at the crease, ive moved to middle and leg..

Its a weird one, being told to move away from your stumps... Ive had it done to me before when i had a laugh and took off guard in a club match.... Cant really come up with an argument for or against, after all, the bowler needs to be able to see the stumps doesnt he?
 
age_master

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
Neil Pickup said:
AFAIK, take guard where you want, you'd think the bowler knew where the stumps were...
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exactly, if you ever play the same team again make sure that they cant see the stumps :)

seriously though just take guard whereever your comfortable
 
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