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Do you think some players deserve extra recognition for being good in all 3 formats of international cricket?

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The Hillside

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Not too long ago only 2 formats of international cricket existed and for a fairly long time, so we judged the all time best cricket players based on that, but few years ago a new format of cricket made its mark on the international cricket named T20I, which received good popularity and outcome and was a successful format by every standard.

This kind of format required different kinds of skills, strategy, fitness levels and competitive scale.

Not every player was good at this format, I mean even the ones who were/are good at both Test and ODIs. And only a few excelled in all three formats of international cricket. But some had excellence and records to show for that.

Only two names stand out for me in that regard:

Virat Kohli
David Warner

Do you think we should give them extra recognition when being ranked amongst or being compared to all time best cricket players?
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
It's an interesting thought.... On one hand, yeah; they've really performed well in T20s alongside Tests and ODIs; but on the other hand, most people on CW don't really give a **** to T20s (myself included actually....). I think personally when I rate players across generations, I almost always rate them on their Test performances, and very rarely on ODIs. Given how new T20s are and how much the top players in mid 2000s didn't gave a **** about it while being introduced really makes it tough to evaluate.
Also, I think Chris Gayle also fits this criteria perfectly, maybe even MSD, McCullum, Bumrah, ABD (on counting IPL), Stokes, etc.
 
T

The Hillside

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
capt_Luffy said:
It's an interesting thought.... On one hand, yeah; they've really performed well in T20s alongside Tests and ODIs; but on the other hand, most people on CW don't really give a **** to T20s (myself included actually....). I think personally when I rate players across generations, I almost always rate them on their Test performances, and very rarely on ODIs. Given how new T20s are and how much the top players in mid 2000s didn't gave a **** about it while being introduced really makes it tough to evaluate.
Also, I think Chris Gayle also fits this criteria perfectly, maybe even MSD, McCullum, Bumrah, ABD (on counting IPL), Stokes, etc.
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Not counting IPL or other national leagues, only counting International cricket as said in the original post.
 
Shady Slim

Shady Slim

International Coach
i think that when you're rating test players, you don't have to per se pump their tyres for being good in other formats, because if they're good in tests because of skills they have in other formats that'll be reflected in their test record
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
I mean only if you’re rating them across all three formats. Otherwise it doesn’t matter.
 
Daemon

Daemon

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It's certainly harder to suceed in all 3 and have to constantly adapt between formats, but I'm not sure it should be a factor when rating players. Most players play all formats anyways so your opponent is facing the same disadvantage. Anderson/Broad/Pujara types are the exception not the norm.
 
T

The Hillside

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
Daemon said:
It's certainly harder to suceed in all 3 and have to constantly adapt between formats, but I'm not sure it should be a factor when rating players. Most players play all formats anyways so your opponent is facing the same disadvantage. Anderson/Broad/Pujara types are the exception not the norm.
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Yeah but some players have good records in T20I's, and few have very good records in T20I's like I mentioned Kohli and Warner. We can't ignore that can we? A player like Darren Sammy won all that he could through T20I format, won couple of T20I's WC's for West Indies and had a stadium named after him. So many T20I World Cups, so many exciting players in the format, so many close encounters, so many records, so I feel it stays as a weighted format.
 
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Qlder

International Debutant
I can't remember anything special about a single game in last years T20i world cup...

....but I can still remember so much about the 1979/80 test series vs England and West Indies. Says it all about which format should have the higher rating
 
Burgey

Burgey

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Qlder said:
I can't remember anything special about a single game in last years T20i world cup...

....but I can still remember so much about the 1979/80 test series vs England and West Indies. Says it all about which format should have the higher rating
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That was actually the best Australian summer of cricket in my life time by a substantial margin tbh. Standard of cricket was insanely good
 
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