Between Bland and Randall you would have to put in Clive Lloyd in his early days. Apparently lethal in the covers.luckyeddie said:The answer to your question is obviously no - I am Cricket Web's old fart.
Colin Bland wasn't better that Jonty Rhodes - you have to appreciate that in the 1960's, ground-fielding didn't involve much diving, sliding and the like - at least, until Colin Bland came along.
He just took cover fielding to a new level, far higher than anyone had seen it before. He was the first fielder to do 'exhibitions' - hundreds used to turn up, just as they did for Jonty.
He was the master of the 'quick pick-up and throw', quick, mobile and unerringly accurate.
The next 'world great' to come along was Derek Randall, who probably edged Bland regarding anticipation (Randall was like a panther in the field - quick feet) but was slightly behind on technical ability.
Jonty was the match of both in either category (I watched his 'masterclass' last year and the emphasis he placed on foot movement and weight transference reminded me very much of Randall - tiny steps just before the batsman hits the ball), and so in my mind is Number 1 by the narrowest margin.
Superb athleticism, yes, but nowhere near as quick off the mark - obvious, really - Clive is huge, and so are his hands (fabulous catcher).mavric41 said:Between Bland and Randall you would have to put in Clive Lloyd in his early days. Apparently lethal in the covers.
Whereas I don't recessarily disagree with the players you have topping each category, the statement 'no one in history comes close' is rather nonsensical.Pratyush said:No one in history come close to them, no matter what any one may say.
Bit extreme!Pratyush said:Don Bradman - all time best batsman
Sobers - all time best all rounder
Gilchrist - All time best keeper batsman
Rhodes - all time best fielder
No one in history come close to them, no matter what any one may say.
Langeveldt said:
Id say Jacques Kallis might give Sobers a run for his money, maybe his bowling isnt as potent.. Not saying he is better, but he does come close IMO..
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Shane Warne said:
pass the pipe, i want some of what your smoking
Hmmm..... but I know that Kallis is miles off of Sobers. Miles.Langeveldt said:Liams got it..
Or rather batsman-keeper...Pratyush said:Gilchrist - All time best keeper batsman
When you look at it, Sobers' bowling wasn't that great.Shane Warne said:Id say Jacques Kallis might give Sobers a run for his money, maybe his bowling isnt as potent..
For a brilliant batsman who filled in with the ball as well, it wasn't all that bad. He never had pace and didn't turn it as much as others, so I think 235 wickets in 93 matches isn't too bad. 6x5w.marc71178 said:When you look at it, Sobers' bowling wasn't that great.
Derek Randall, like any great fielder, fielded anywhere with exceptional skill.Craig said:I dont know about Adam Gilchrist being the best batsman-keeper ever, Alan Knott remains a favourite of mine.
I remember seeing footage of Knott coming in with Boycott at 80-5 in the Test at Trent Bridge in 1977 and both put on centuries.
LE, where did Randell field?