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Cricket legacies

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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
We see in the case of Imran Khan that the idea of a high pace bowler in Pakistan was nonexistent until he came, and then he played an active hand in grooming and nurturing the next gen of fast bowlers. Even the gen after have cited Khan as their inspiration. His is the clearest example of a cricket legacy.

What are the other legacies that can be traced to a progenitor?
 
Shady Slim

Shady Slim

International Coach
the existence of rashid khan is a pretty huge reason why people in other countries got behind more opportunity for afghanistan i would think

fair argument they aren't a test nation right now without rashid (and to a lesser extent others such as nabi) making it in comps overseas and how it got others on board the afgh train
 
Starfighter

Starfighter

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subshakerz said:
But who was his legacy? MacGill?
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Club cricket in Australia is still chock-a-block with Warne copycats. Zampa and Swepson are two. Sure there hasn't been anything in the way of fantastic test-wicket taking success, but good leg spinners are a rarity full stop, and Warne's action is not suited to people who don't have his build. And leg spin is exalted to high heavens here.
 
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Ali TT

International Vice-Captain
subshakerz said:
We see in the case of Imran Khan that the idea of a high pace bowler in Pakistan was nonexistent until he came, and then he played an active hand in grooming and nurturing the next gen of fast bowlers. Even the gen after have cited Khan as their inspiration. His is the clearest example of a cricket legacy.

What are the other legacies that can be traced to a progenitor?
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He wasn't even Pakistan's first great fast bowler, nor the creator of reverse swing.
 
TheJediBrah

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Starfighter said:
Club cricket in Australia is still chock-a-block with Warne copycats. Zampa and Swepson are two. Sure there hasn't been anything in the way of fantastic test-wicket taking success, but good leg spinners are a rarity full stop, and Warne's action is not suited to people who don't have his build. And leg spin is exalted to high heavens here.
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Brings up an important point that it's not just that every kid wanted to bowl leg spin, but so many of them copied Warne's action
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Lillee was definitely a legacy player. He hugely impacted Hadlee and Imran wanted to be a fast bowler because of him.

Gavaskar to me seemed like an inspiration for a whole generation of Indian batsmanship that continues until this day.

Gilchrist is also a huge legacy player.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
Yeah Gilchrist is probably the biggest modern one. If you have a bloke who is a crappish keeper but will average 35+ a team will persist with them. Can you imagine that happening pre Gilly? (waiting for someone to find a great example to prove me wrong).

Wonder how big the difference is now and right before he started between the average batting average of test keepers.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Coronis said:
Yeah Gilchrist is probably the biggest modern one. If you have a bloke who is a crappish keeper but will average 35+ a team will persist with them. Can you imagine that happening pre Gilly? (waiting for someone to find a great example to prove me wrong).
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Alec Stewart in favor of Jack Russell?
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
subshakerz said:
Alec Stewart in favor of Jack Russell?
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Not entirely familiar with Stewart’s career (or his relative keeping skills) but wasn’t he a pure batsman for much of it? Russell did end up playing tests until 35 (though Stewarts the same age) so not necessarily that bad.
 
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Ali TT

International Vice-Captain
subshakerz said:
Fazal Mahmood was very early and wasn't a fast bowler but a seamer type. He wasn't followed by anyone.

Safraz discovered reverse but Imran mastered it and showed its full potential.
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I am sure Fazal was a yard slower than Imran and those that followed but Fazal was the original Pakistani fast bowler that pioneered the way for the rest. As the PCB say on their biography for him:

"He was the first great fast bowler from the country that would go on to establish itself as one of the richest region for fast bowling."

or more simply put by Shoaib Akhtar "He was the torch-bearer"

Imran obviously has a huge legacy, but he was not the first in the way you are saying. Cricket before the 70s was a lot more than just Bradman.
 
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