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Combining ODI and Test records, who are the 5 greatest cricketers ever?

DrWolverine

DrWolverine

U19 Cricketer
ankitj said:
You have to adjust for era. 72 isn't all that bad. Better than Greenidge and Haynes, and also Miandad afair.
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It is good for that era.

But not enough to be Top 5 in Tests & ODIs.

I would pick Hadlee who is an ATG bowler in both formats
 
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sayon basak

sayon basak

International Debutant
DrWolverine said:
It is good for that era.

But not enough to be Top 5 in Tests & ODIs.

I would pick Hadlee who is an ATG bowler in both formats
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He doesn't need to be so. He is the 2nd greatest test AR of all time, and was a decent ODI player; good enough imo.
 
DrWolverine

DrWolverine

U19 Cricketer
sayon basak said:
He doesn't need to be so. He is the 2nd greatest test AR of all time, and was a decent ODI player; good enough imo.
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Hadlee was great in tests and ODI

Garner was great in tests and ODIs.

Akram was great in tests and ODIs.

When we have so many options, why choose Imran?
 
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HouHsiaoHsien

International Debutant
With a 70-30 weightage to tests and ODIs:

Tendulkar
Richards
Mcgrath
Murali
Hadlee/Wasim(Wasim was ATG in tests and ODIs, should make it above Imran marginally. Hadlee is a top 6/7 ODI bowler too).
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
ankitj said:
Giving equal weightage to test and ODI:

1. Muralitharan
2. Tendulkar
3. Viv Richards
4. McGrath
5. Imran

With Wasim Akram pushing Imran for #5.

Wow subcontinent rules.
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I'd put Gilchrist 5th. He is the 3rd guaranteed pick in an ATG test XI behind Bradman and Sobers and has scored the most ever runs in World Cup finals (the most important ODIs) with 260 runs from 3 innings at a s/r of 138.29.
 
ankitj

ankitj

Hall of Fame Member
Fuller Pilch said:
I'd put Gilchrist 5th. He is the 3rd guaranteed pick in an ATG test XI behind Bradman and Sobers and has scored the most ever runs in World Cup finals (the most important ODIs) with 260 runs from 3 innings at a s/r of 138.29.
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Yeah I was going to make a post about that. Based on how much you weigh the specialist keeper role, Gilchrist has a bloody good case.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
DrWolverine said:
Imran’s record is not that great in ODI cricket.

A bowling average of 26 and a strike rate of 72 is not really that impressive.
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He is an underrated ODI cricketer. Better to look at him as a 23 average bowler and 27/28 average bat who can either smack or accumulate.

His batting was more to build innings in a slower era.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Given around equal weightage (55-45 for Tests, the lowest I can go):
  1. Sachin Tendulkar
  2. Viv Richards
  3. Glenn McGrath
  4. Mutthiah Muralitharan
  5. Wasim Akram
  6. Richard Hadlee
  7. Shaun Pollock
  8. Joel Garner
  9. Adam Gilchrist
  10. Imran Khan
  11. Brian Lara
  12. Allan Donald
  13. Curtly Ambrose
  14. Ricky Ponting
  15. Kapil Dev
  16. Waqar Younis
  17. Shane Warne
  18. A B de Villiers
  19. Virat Kohli
  20. Jasprit Bumrah
  21. Kumar Sangakkara
  22. Dennis Lillee
  23. Michael Holding
  24. Malcolm Marshall
  25. Greg Chappell
  26. Shakib Al Hasan
  27. Javed Miandad
  28. Jacques Kallis
  29. Gordon Greenidge
  30. Steve Smith
  31. Dale Steyn
  32. M S Dhoni
  33. Andy Roberts
  34. Saqlain Mushtaq
  35. Courtney Walsh
  36. Andrew Flintoff
  37. Zaheer Abbas
  38. Mitchell Starc
  39. Dean Jones
  40. Hashim Amla
  41. Mitchell Johnson
  42. Joe Root
  43. Aravinda de Silva
  44. Mohmmad Shami
  45. Kane Williamson
  46. Trent Boult
  47. Anil Kumble
  48. Kagiso Rabada
  49. Ross Taylor
  50. Matthew Hayden
  51. Virendra Sehwag
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
capt_Luffy said:
Given around equal weightage (55-45 for Tests, the lowest I can go):
  1. Sachin Tendulkar
  2. Viv Richards
  3. Glenn McGrath
  4. Mutthiah Muralitharan
  5. Wasim Akram
  6. Richard Hadlee
  7. Shaun Pollock
  8. Joel Garner
  9. Adam Gilchrist
  10. Imran Khan
  11. Brian Lara
  12. Allan Donald
  13. Curtly Ambrose
  14. Ricky Ponting
  15. Kapil Dev
  16. Waqar Younis
  17. Shane Warne
  18. A B de Villiers
  19. Virat Kohli
  20. Jasprit Bumrah
  21. Kumar Sangakkara
  22. Dennis Lillee
  23. Michael Holding
  24. Greg Chappell
  25. Shakib Al Hasan
  26. Javed Miandad
  27. Jacques Kallis
  28. Gordon Greenidge
  29. Steve Smith
  30. Malcolm Marshall
  31. Dale Steyn
  32. M S Dhoni
  33. Andy Roberts
  34. Saqlain Mushtaq
  35. Courtney Walsh
  36. Andrew Flintoff
  37. Zaheer Abbas
  38. Mitchell Starc
  39. Dean Jones
  40. Hashim Amla
  41. Mitchell Johnson
  42. Joe Root
  43. Aravinda de Silva
  44. Kane Williamson
  45. Anil Kumble
  46. Kagiso Rabada
  47. Ross Taylor
  48. Fanie de Villiers
  49. Virendra Sehwag
  50. Chaminda Vaas
  51. Shoaib Akhtar
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Gilly and Imran should be higher.
 
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Thala_0710

First Class Debutant
capt_Luffy said:
Given around equal weightage (55-45 for Tests, the lowest I can go):
  1. Sachin Tendulkar
  2. Viv Richards
  3. Glenn McGrath
  4. Mutthiah Muralitharan
  5. Wasim Akram
  6. Richard Hadlee
  7. Shaun Pollock
  8. Joel Garner
  9. Adam Gilchrist
  10. Imran Khan
  11. Brian Lara
  12. Allan Donald
  13. Curtly Ambrose
  14. Ricky Ponting
  15. Kapil Dev
  16. Waqar Younis
  17. Shane Warne
  18. A B de Villiers
  19. Virat Kohli
  20. Jasprit Bumrah
  21. Kumar Sangakkara
  22. Dennis Lillee
  23. Michael Holding
  24. Greg Chappell
  25. Shakib Al Hasan
  26. Javed Miandad
  27. Jacques Kallis
  28. Gordon Greenidge
  29. Steve Smith
  30. Malcolm Marshall
  31. Dale Steyn
  32. M S Dhoni
  33. Andy Roberts
  34. Saqlain Mushtaq
  35. Courtney Walsh
  36. Andrew Flintoff
  37. Zaheer Abbas
  38. Mitchell Starc
  39. Dean Jones
  40. Hashim Amla
  41. Mitchell Johnson
  42. Joe Root
  43. Aravinda de Silva
  44. Mohmmad Shami
  45. Kane Williamson
  46. Anil Kumble
  47. Kagiso Rabada
  48. Ross Taylor
  49. Fanie de Villiers
  50. Virendra Sehwag
  51. Chaminda Vaas
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Wouldn't have FDV there, personally would go someone like Shami ahead of him
 
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