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Channel 9 Commentators - Very Poor Form

Dave Gregory

School Boy/Girl Captain
I am really annoyed with the Channel 9 commentary team in the current Test match against South Africa. This isn't merely a whinge about the usual banalaties they sprout forth. Every hour or so, they are quoting the current odds being offered by betting agencies on the outcome of the game. Now, I don't mind it if commentators sometimes mention the fact that a team is now "100-1" to win the match or similar to demonstrate how far behind they are, but I have struggled to understand why we needed to be updated that South Africa were now $2.55 on the win, rather than the $2.15 an hour earlier.

However, it has become clear that it is merely an advertising scheme approved by the hierarchy at Channel 9. One or two mentions of betting odds could be coincidence; the continual repeating demonstrates is a predetermined strategy. I don't mind if companies wish to advertise, that is what makes the world run. But don't go in for this almost 'subliminal' advertising, with commentators throwing in regular references without acknowledging that they are being paid to do so. I was under the clearly misguided opinion that there was a limit on how much advertising was allowed on television. Channel 9 are obviously trying to bypass this limitation by having their commentators constantly promoting betting. Betfair and Channel 9 have history (http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s1183337.htm), so its hardly surprising, but still disappointing, to see Channel 9 so actively promoting the company's activities.

This is so wrong on many levels. The actual promotion of gambling is bad enough; there are a lot of people in Australia who have problems with an addiction without it being forced down their throat whilst trying to watch our supposed national game. However, in light of the ongoing problems with match-fixing, it appears the height of hypocrisy for Channel 9 to be so openly promoting betting.

Surrounding the cricket grounds this summer is advertising material for Betfair. I have no drama with this. It is clear and transparent. However, the appalling actions of Channel 9 are beyond the pale. Very poor stuff.
 

Simon

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They do it on Friday night football during the rugby league too. I mean when Tony Greig says "Betfair is a an official partner of Cricket Australia and Channel 9" they are hardly trying to hide the fact. I have no problem with mentioning it on the odd occasion, but they ammount they are doing it is overkill.
 

archie mac

International Coach
They do it on Friday night football during the rugby league too. I mean when Tony Greig says "Betfair is a an official partner of Cricket Australia and Channel 9" they are hardly trying to hide the fact. I have no problem with mentioning it on the odd occasion, but they ammount they are doing it is overkill.
Interested the first 100 times but a bit over it now!:wacko:
 

S.P. Fleming

U19 Cricketer
I personally dont mind hearing the odds as they can be quite interesting and give a view on the game. I dont think they are trying to hide the advertising fact either.
 

Talmier

Cricket Spectator
I am really annoyed with the Channel 9 commentary team in the current Test match against South Africa. This isn't merely a whinge about the usual banalaties they sprout forth. Every hour or so, they are quoting the current odds being offered by betting agencies on the outcome of the game. Now, I don't mind it if commentators sometimes mention the fact that a team is now "100-1" to win the match or similar to demonstrate how far behind they are, but I have struggled to understand why we needed to be updated that South Africa were now $2.55 on the win, rather than the $2.15 an hour earlier.

However, it has become clear that it is merely an advertising scheme approved by the hierarchy at Channel 9. One or two mentions of betting odds could be coincidence; the continual repeating demonstrates is a predetermined strategy. I don't mind if companies wish to advertise, that is what makes the world run. But don't go in for this almost 'subliminal' advertising, with commentators throwing in regular references without acknowledging that they are being paid to do so. I was under the clearly misguided opinion that there was a limit on how much advertising was allowed on television. Channel 9 are obviously trying to bypass this limitation by having their commentators constantly promoting betting. Betfair and Channel 9 have history (http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s1183337.htm), so its hardly surprising, but still disappointing, to see Channel 9 so actively promoting the company's activities.

This is so wrong on many levels. The actual promotion of gambling is bad enough; there are a lot of people in Australia who have problems with an addiction without it being forced down their throat whilst trying to watch our supposed national game. However, in light of the ongoing problems with match-fixing, it appears the height of hypocrisy for Channel 9 to be so openly promoting betting.

Surrounding the cricket grounds this summer is advertising material for Betfair. I have no drama with this. It is clear and transparent. However, the appalling actions of Channel 9 are beyond the pale. Very poor stuff.
They even flashed up the URL at the bottom of the screen like they do with the memorabilia items. I was suprised I didn't think you would be able to advertise gambeling on primetime.

Or if you could I'm surprised you don't see more casino advertising on TV
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
This is so wrong on many levels. The actual promotion of gambling is bad enough; there are a lot of people in Australia who have problems with an addiction without it being forced down their throat whilst trying to watch our supposed national game. However, in light of the ongoing problems with match-fixing, it appears the height of hypocrisy for Channel 9 to be so openly promoting betting.
If it was up to people like you, I'd be out of a job.

There are a lot of people in Australia who have problems with drinking too. Yet, the tri-series was sponsored by Carlton United for years.

And "beyond the pale"? I bet you write letters to the editor of your local paper too.
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
I don't have a problem with betting (I do a bit of Betfair myself) or betting advertising, but doesn't it have to come with some kind of disclaimer legally?

Anyway, ignoring all that, I thought the way it was done it was majorly irritating in the bit of play I saw, and just made the commentary sound stupid.
 

Uppercut

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I don't have a problem with betting (I do a bit of Betfair myself) or betting advertising, but doesn't it have to come with some kind of disclaimer legally?

Anyway, ignoring all that, I thought the way it was done it was majorly irritating in the bit of play I saw, and just made the commentary sound stupid.
It "made" Ian Healy sound stupid? :huh:

If they weren't talking crap about that, they'd have been talking about something even more irrelevant, like the direction of a slight breeze, design of the scoreboard or run rate less than 3 during the first six overs of an innings.
 

Nate

You'll Never Walk Alone
There are thousands of things this thread should be about before we reach BetFair.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
If it was up to people like you, I'd be out of a job.

There are a lot of people in Australia who have problems with drinking too. Yet, the tri-series was sponsored by Carlton United for years.

And "beyond the pale"? I bet you write letters to the editor of your local paper too.
:laugh:

I agree, there a millions of people who don't have a gambling problem despite this advertising too...I don't think it's worth wasting a hell of a lot of time worrying about self-induced 'social problems'.

If it was simply a matter of advertising then we'd all eat junk food, be constantly pissed, and have rooms full of stuff we don't need before hocking it all at the local pawnbroker for money to spend on poker machines and horses.

I'm sure it gets annoying when it's interspersed with cricket commentary all day though.
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
If it was simply a matter of advertising then we'd all eat junk food, be constantly pissed, and have rooms full of stuff we don't need before hocking it all at the local pawnbroker for money to spend on poker machines and horses.
:(

Welcome to my life.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I don't think it's worth wasting a hell of a lot of time worrying about self-induced 'social problems'.
It's all very well saying gambling addiction (or any other addiction) is self-inflicted, and to an extent it is (the extent varies in various people), but like with anything there are vulnerable types who are preyed upon by those who couldn't care less about individual welfare as long as there's corporation profit.

I don't have a clue how much of a problem gambling is in Australia or what laws pertain to advertising it, but I've always believed govornments have a responsibility to protect those vulnerable who wish to help themselves and as such I'm not massively keen on advertising gambling.

The apparent C9 attempts to bypass this or that - which I clearly don't watch enough live play to notice, either that or I just switch to forget-within-5-seconds mode when commentators start bumbling-on about irrelevancies - are a different matter of course and I have no real opinion on that one way or the other.
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
:laugh:

I agree, there a millions of people who don't have a gambling problem despite this advertising too...I don't think it's worth wasting a hell of a lot of time worrying about self-induced 'social problems'.

If it was simply a matter of advertising then we'd all eat junk food, be constantly pissed, and have rooms full of stuff we don't need before hocking it all at the local pawnbroker for money to spend on poker machines and horses.

I'm sure it gets annoying when it's interspersed with cricket commentary all day though.
You say it like it's a bad thing?
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
I don't have a clue how much of a problem gambling is in Australia or what laws pertain to advertising it, but I've always believed govornments have a responsibility to protect those vulnerable who wish to help themselves and as such I'm not massively keen on advertising gambling.
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Around 2-3% of Australians have severe gambling addiction problems
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
It's all very well saying gambling addiction (or any other addiction) is self-inflicted, and to an extent it is (the extent varies in various people), but like with anything there are vulnerable types who are preyed upon by those who couldn't care less about individual welfare as long as there's corporation profit.

I don't have a clue how much of a problem gambling is in Australia or what laws pertain to advertising it, but I've always believed govornments have a responsibility to protect those vulnerable who wish to help themselves and as such I'm not massively keen on advertising gambling.

The apparent C9 attempts to bypass this or that - which I clearly don't watch enough live play to notice, either that or I just switch to forget-within-5-seconds mode when commentators start bumbling-on about irrelevancies - are a different matter of course and I have no real opinion on that one way or the other.
True, but you can't ban everything because some people are vulnerable. Admittedly, constantly mentioning Betfair throughout the day's play would be annoying. There's a fair chance though that anyone with a gambling problem is already at the TAB/has their bets on in advance. I doubt too many people sitting at home go "Bloody hell...I know nothing about cricket...let's throw $200 on Ntini as the highest scorer...Gee, I lost, but this is addictive!"
 

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