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Aus XI vs Eng XI pre 1970

Which test xi is better pre 1970?


  • Total voters
    12

Patience and Accuracy+Gut

State Vice-Captain
If England is slowing down Bradman and he’s still averaging 50+ then what is the Australian attack doing to England lol
I don’t think England is stopping Bradman. Or tbh even slowing him. Still 6 ATG batsman is better than 1 even if the 1 is The Greatest of all time.

Australia’s edge lies in the bowling. England is shy of a ATG 4th bowler. I still think England start as the favourite. Australia has Bradman, England have lot more truly great players. England start as the favorite imho.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
iirc Woodfull once stated having Bradman was the equivalent of 3 batters. Don’t think he exaggerated. Its hard to bet against him.
 

Coronis

Hall of Fame Member
3 normal batsman definitely. But here we are talking about other guys who are among The Greatest of all time. Not just great but among The Greatest of them all. Grace, Hobbs, Hutton, Hammond, Sutcliffe and Barrington too!
I believe I said this recently somewhere but it isn’t just his average. It was his ability to make big scores and so consistently that would turn matches.

(not looking at Grace because lack of test stats but just a comparison)

% of 50+ scores
Bradman 52.50%
Sutcliffe 46.43%
Hobbs 42.16%
Barrington 41.98%
Hutton 37.68%
Hammond 32.86%

conversion rate
Bradman 69.05%
Hammond 47.83%
Sutcliffe 41.03%
Hutton 36.54%
Barrington 36.36%
Hobbs 34.88%

conversion of tons to double tons
Bradman 41.38%
Hammond 31.82%
Hutton 21.05%
Hobbs 6.67%
Barrington 5.00%
Sutcliffe 0.00%

Just crazy production whenever he got going.

Not saying he’s necessarily worth 3 ATG batsmen. Scores 50’s the most, converts them to tons the most and converts them to doubles and triples the most. His impact can’t be underestimated imo.
 

Patience and Accuracy+Gut

State Vice-Captain
I believe I said this recently somewhere but it isn’t just his average. It was his ability to make big scores and so consistently that would turn matches.

(not looking at Grace because lack of test stats but just a comparison)

% of 50+ scores
Bradman 52.50%
Sutcliffe 46.43%
Hobbs 42.16%
Barrington 41.98%
Hutton 37.68%
Hammond 32.86%

conversion rate
Bradman 69.05%
Hammond 47.83%
Sutcliffe 41.03%
Hutton 36.54%
Barrington 36.36%
Hobbs 34.88%

conversion of tons to double tons
Bradman 41.38%
Hammond 31.82%
Hutton 21.05%
Hobbs 6.67%
Barrington 5.00%
Sutcliffe 0.00%

Just crazy production whenever he got going.

Not saying he’s necessarily worth 3 ATG batsmen. Scores 50’s the most, converts them to tons the most and converts them to doubles and triples the most. His impact can’t be underestimated imo.
Without Bradman, Australia would have barely any chance. With Bradman on, England start as slight but clear favourites. 6 is better than 1 imho. Even if the 1 happens to be the best player in history by far.
 

Patience and Accuracy+Gut

State Vice-Captain
I'd go

Hobbs
Sutcliffe
Hutton
Hammond
Barrington
Grace
Ames
Verity
Bedser
Trueman
Barnes

Simpson
Trumper
Bradman
McCartney
Harvey
McCabe
Miller
Oldfield
Davidson
Lindwall
O’Reilly

England has an immense top 5, but Australia bats incredibly deep, has loads of bowling options, and Bradman.
This seems like the way to go for Australia to win the series. Also, England have Immense top 6 rather than top 5. Grace ofc is a better batsman than any Australian there bar Bradman.
 

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