kyear2
International Coach
Gilly was an excellent keeper.Ok but what are you giving Gilly extra points for over Flower? Not to be pedantic. Just for my clarification.
Gilly was an excellent keeper.Ok but what are you giving Gilly extra points for over Flower? Not to be pedantic. Just for my clarification.
Agreed but why wasn't Flower?Gilly was an excellent keeper.
He would make all of those teams comfortably. Extremely handy batter and one of the greatest with the gloves – like a moderate downgrade on Watling.Alan Knott wouldn’t make the current English team (or the Indian team, or the Australian team, or the Bangladesh team)
He'd literally make all of them. He'd even make the current Indian team on batting alone considering the form of most of the batsmen lmao.Alan Knott wouldn’t make the current English team (or the Indian team, or the Australian team, or the Bangladesh team)
Because he wasn't?Agreed but why wasn't Flower?
That's extremely far fetched.Alan Knott wouldn’t make the current English team (or the Indian team, or the Australian team, or the Bangladesh team)
He was a good enough bat to actually.Alan Knott wouldn’t make the current English team (or the Indian team, or the Australian team, or the Bangladesh team)
Ok so you remember him being average behind the stumps then? That's all I wanted to confirm.He wasn't tidy behind the stumps, and he had drops. While not being nearly as tests with the quality spinners Gilly stood up to.
Not only remembered, but watched some long form highlight clips and read match reports. Even in some highlights you get mentions of stuff like, "he holds onto this one", referencing previous dropsOk so you remember him being average behind the stumps then? That's all I wanted to confirm.
I guess for me the difference between a safe vs great keeper isn't as essential. But if Flower is not even safe, then that's an issue.Not only remembered, but watched some long form highlight clips and read match reports. Even in some highlights you get mentions of stuff like, "he holds onto this one", referencing previous drops
Again, you're the peer ratings guy. Is it possibly that he was that great and it was somehow missed by the entire cricketing community?
I imagine the Pant chatter will pop up at some point in the future as well.
Who is, though?It's one thing to claim Flower wasn't a bad keeper. It's another to claim he was better than Gilchrist (who was genuinely excellent with the gloves). It's one of the worst cricket opinions I've ever heard.
Kimber in the video posted before.Who is, though?
Not to mention they name an all time leftie XI and the names that were selected over the likes ofKimber in the video posted before.
Yeah a bunch of shockers in that video. Kimber is usually sharper but that was disappointing.Not to mention they name an all time leftie XI and the names that were selected over the likes of
Allan Border
Alan Davidson
Graeme Pollock
Neil Harvey
Hedley Verity
Derek Underwood
The discourse was poor.
The level of cricketing acumen from the other two was even worse, but some what clarifies some stuff for me. Especially for the younger generation.Yeah a bunch of shockers in that video. Kimber is usually sharper but that was disappointing.
Not everyone can be a CW nerd.The level of cricketing acumen from the other two was even worse, but some what clarifies some stuff for me. Especially for the younger generation.
They do it for a living though lol.Not everyone can be a CW nerd.
yeah but not as good as Jamie smith or rishabh pant or Alex Carey or Liton Das. And teams have rightly decided that once a keeper is acceptable there is limited marginal utility to great keepingHe was a good enough bat to actually.
Dats silly.Kimber in the video posted before.