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A comparison of seam bowlers with 700 Test wickets

Owzat

U19 Captain
700 seamer club is a group of plodders tbh
good but not great wickets per Test, most top bowlers retire well before longevity gives them records of "most" but recency effect will mean he's placed in lofty standing against better English bowlers.....
 

Owzat

U19 Captain
Anderson is the worst seam bowler ever in 100+ years of test history to take 700+ wickets.
seen a dig at Bairstow, "worst player ever to reach 100 caps" - you don't get to 100 caps by being a terrible player, he may not be as great as most or all but it's a rather silly way of swiping at JB - and he played more innings as a batsman keeper than just batsman, being moved up and down the order, given gloves and then taken away etc was bound to knock his average a bit.

averages 38 at #5 and #6 as a Batsman, 40 at #6 and #7 as a keeper, for those can't come to terms with WHY he got picked a lot....


may take a few decades before anyone plays like 20 (?) years as a quick and gets 600 let alone 700 Test wickets, very good bowler no doubt but 3.74 wickets per Test average shows longevity has been more of a factor than brilliance, sure he has his Tests where he rips up sides but "only" 32 5wi and a more telling/lacking THREE 10wm is a Test-ament to that

Botham 27x 5wi and 4x 10wm (in 85 less Tests)
Hadlee 36x 5wi and 9x 10wm (in 101 less Tests)
Steyn 26x 5wi and 5x 10wm (in 94 less Tests)

could probably go on, find a lot more who would have got to 700 had they played for 20+ years, not forgetting injury 'fortune' that playing 20+ years and 9.5 Tests a year average takes durability, his type probably helped ie not out and out pace
 

Socerer 01

International Captain
seen a dig at Bairstow, "worst player ever to reach 100 caps" - you don't get to 100 caps by being a terrible player, he may not be as great as most or all but it's a rather silly way of swiping at JB - and he played more innings as a batsman keeper than just batsman, being moved up and down the order, given gloves and then taken away etc was bound to knock his average a bit.

averages 38 at #5 and #6 as a Batsman, 40 at #6 and #7 as a keeper, for those can't come to terms with WHY he got picked a lot....


may take a few decades before anyone plays like 20 (?) years as a quick and gets 600 let alone 700 Test wickets, very good bowler no doubt but 3.74 wickets per Test average shows longevity has been more of a factor than brilliance, sure he has his Tests where he rips up sides but "only" 32 5wi and a more telling/lacking THREE 10wm is a Test-ament to that

Botham 27x 5wi and 4x 10wm (in 85 less Tests)
Hadlee 36x 5wi and 9x 10wm (in 101 less Tests)
Steyn 26x 5wi and 5x 10wm (in 94 less Tests)

could probably go on, find a lot more who would have got to 700 had they played for 20+ years, not forgetting injury 'fortune' that playing 20+ years and 9.5 Tests a year average takes durability, his type probably helped ie not out and out pace
are you related to Bairstow or someone close to him?

even in a thread that has nothing to do with him you end up sucking him off with half baked statistics that hide more than they reveal
 

Coronis

International Coach
Is Kapil a HTB in your opinion?
I would consider a batsman who averages 10+ more at home or a bowler who averages 5+ less at home to be a HTB.

This ofc doesn’t preclude them from having an excellent record - e.g I would call Sobers a HTB technically, but he still has a great away record.
 

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