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    Smith v Kohli (test match batting)

    Smith is the convincingly better test batsman as of now for sure . But his too much shuffle and the way he got out in the last ashes inns ...mmm , i think lots of teams would be keenly watching..A bit of alteration from his prejudiced line and length,,,,, that would be interesting just like...
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    *Official* South Africa in India, Sep/Oct 2019

    well said with convincing proof. Toss win/loss percentage is more or less the same here. The conclusion here is that India knows how to draw tests even if they don't win despite losing tosses at home which the other teams lag behind..
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    how can such a pecking order be unanimous even in CW let alone 'out side world? With the advent of internet and with websites like espncricinfo available people analyse things based on lots of contexts . No wonder in a poll in another well known cricket site, out of the 12 members...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    if any, a testimony of what I pointed out. That Windies team was so far ahead from other teams in general especially in bowling that in a single inns itself they would be scoring enough in general. Then more or less the 4 calibre bowlers in general in the team ensured the opposition got out to...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    what ever said and done from 28-8-2015 till Jan 2018(2 years & 4 months) Ishan't bowling average didn't show any progress( 36.51 to 36.55). Also agreed with the other points you said. But to drop his avg: by a huge 3.14 with in a span of mere 13 tests, the role played by 'being in the...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    yet another emphatic proof of what I said w.r.t support bowling strength. Ishant Sharma was averaging 36.55 when SAF series started for India in Jan 2018.Bumrah debuted in this series in first test.Now in mere 20 months time his average has come down to 33.41, a drop of mammoth 3.14 in...
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    Will the West Indies ever rise again?

    don't think they are so poor .Windies have Holder,Roach,Gabriel,Chase, Brathwhite(opener) ,Darren Bravo who form a core group. A few more players especially a good spinner & a few quality batsmen . they can form a good all round unit.
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    i am not making up numbers on my own. These data can be filtered out using 'espncricinfo' web site tools.
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    I was earlier refering to India-Windies ongoing series in which how Jadeja was benefiting in the company of a strong bowling group. All in all he took 6 wkts and averaged 30.5. Bumrah,Shami & Ishant together took 33 wkts @12.58 average. What if the other 3 bowlers averaged 38.8( Kapil's...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    felt a bit strange about bolded statement because what all I said has been based on the experience of watching cricket for several years.Any way it is easy to dismiss as 'crap' than providing counter arguments. On a side note, the performance of current Indian bowling unit is a perfect...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    the data you put forward here is simply quoting plain stats which is not difficult to comprehend. My whole point has been that Kapil's stats were adversely affected a lot by the circumstances like heavy workload, lack of adequate bowling support, longevity etc etc. This implies the stats you...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    Botham bowled 21815 balls in a period of 14 years & 10 months. Kapil bowled first 21823 balls( total 27740 balls) in a period of just 11 years & 2 months. There is a difference of almost 31.5% work desnity( balls bowled/year) between the 2. In these first 21823 balls Kapil averaged...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    in basic stats they are more or less equal..... Kapil has 31.05 avg & 81 str: from 7th batting position where as Botham has 33.54 & 61 str: from 6th position. Then it all comes down to the data I projected as the reasons.Here, each to their own. I was referring to 2 inns of Kapil in the same...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    I think I have already stated a lot of points w.r.t these. Yet, I don't find it strange if some body places Botham above Kapil as test batsman .This is because, it all comes down to which of the factors you give preference to. Some people give preference to 'Botham has 14 100s to Kapil's...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    i think I have compared & already said enough of their batting ... So no need of further briefing there . Now into test bowling .I have already posted this stats , yet posting again. In his first 21823 balls(almost similar to Botham's full tally of 21815) where he averaged 29.11,Kapil's...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    On a surface level , I always has wondered as to how Kapil can be placed below Botham in the pecking order. This is because , if we categorise their working disciplines as test batting, test bowling,ODI batting, ODI bowling, fielding & captaincy I cannot find Botham exceeding in a single one...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    One factor I give preference to more than any thing is the 'performance vs best abroad' , in this case vs Windies in Windies . Here Kapil was a monster when compared to the others in every sense.
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    this too is determined by context. Yeah Kapil had only 8 100s to Botham's 14. But in >75 scores, Kapil had 15 to Botham's 16 only which underlines an important factor, that is the position they played in general and the role they did for the team. That is, Botham basically was a 4rth...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    So what ?? Do not their opinions matter? Or do you feel that, just because the majority of voters in that poll were Indians , they voted out of sheer partiality?? Let me share one info: here. In his first 21823 balls(almost similar to Botham's 21815) where he averaged 29.11,Kapil's support...
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    The great 1980s all rounders

    On a parallel world there is a batsman in Indian domestic named Ajay Sharma. He averages 67.5 with the bat. Moving forward ,i would consider him the 2nd best batsman after Sir Don Bradman Ajay Sharma - Check Sharma's News, Career, Age, Rankings, Stats | ESPNcricinfo.com

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