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    Where do you rank Bumrah's performance among the greatest ever bowling series?

    A good one from Walsh. Under rated bowler by many, I don't remember Eng being one of the better teams in those days.
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    Is Jasprit Bumrah an ATG test bowler?

    His most wickets have come playing out of home and against good teams . Collectively, he may have as many wickets away against good teams as other greats. What he lacks is getting volume up by playing at home more and may be doing some stats pad against BD/Zim/SL/WI. If I recall, at home he has...
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    Where do you rank Bumrah's performance among the greatest ever bowling series?

    The best bowling series I have seen by any bowler in more than 3 decades. It was impressive due to doing it without support, doing it away and doing it against the best test team in recent years. If Aus is not the best then 2nd best for sure. Normally I remember bowlers having an outlier...
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    Official Jasprit Bumrah fanboying thread

    “This was as good a fast bowling as I have ever seen since I have been around cricket fields." - Mark Waugh “Everyone thought Jasprit Bumrah would be a massive threat, but I don’t think anyone thought he could bowl to the level he has bowled this series,” Waugh said...
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    Official Jasprit Bumrah fanboying thread

    ---------------------- Ponting on Bumrah: "Probably the best series of fast bowling I've ever seen" "No doubt, it's probably the best series of fast bowling I've ever seen. Yes, they had good conditions, the fast bowlers, for most of this series. But when you watched him (Bumrah) bowl compared...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    I never brought up WPM for IK anytime because I know he was not bowling always. But not bowling won't change Avg or SR. You say that pacers early years shouldn't count, here you go after removing his early years. Gap between Marshall/Hadlee and IK is a large one despite removing 5 early years...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    I give brownie points to lets say some one like Kapil for Sub 25 avg in WI with lots of wickets, but I will still look at his away average to see how he did taken together. His good performance in WI is part of his total away record. Same way, I will see what IK has done. Yes, he was good in WI...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    I don't think I can argue against 8-10 spot, I am myself putting him in the 8-10 range. Does not seem biased to me at all. In fact putting him higher will be biased. He is the best Pakistani test pacer for me, because Wasim has very ordinary record home and away both against better teams. I...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    Who is questioning legit ATG status of IK here. I even put him among the top 10 test pacers. Is that not ATG status? I pointed out his huge disparity in home and away record which stands out in a negative way when compared to other greats. He is still one of the greats. When you are comparing...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    I think in history of test cricket, many players have done well at home, but very few have done well away. Then you have best of the best who have done well against good teams away. That's the toughest test of any player because even ordinary looking home teams puts up a good fight and if you...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    SL was surely a better team in late 90s. SL became formidable team after mid 90s. More than half way Wasim's career. They were minnows till mid 90s. I mean come on, not even 5 tests victory in entire history by then. Yes, Eng was not great team as well. I never said Eng was a great team. They...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    First 10 years of career of Wasim, SL had won 4 tests in their entire history with W/L standing at 0.1. That's not a definition of formidable team for me. That's more than half of Wasim's career. SL started becoming formidable team after mid 90s. NZ was surely a test standard team during his...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    ODI shouldn't be mixed with the test format. In test alone, Wasim's skill was right up there with the best, but we are not ranking bowlers for their skills. We are making top bowlers list. Bowlers job is to take wickets cheaply and quickly. That's what wins matches and makes some one a better...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    SL had won like 4-5 tests in entire history till the first 10 years of Wasim's career and transitioned to non-minnows after that. Wasim underperformed collectively against Aus, Ind, SA, WI, Eng when compared to his peers by a big margin even in his peak. I mean collecitve avg of 27 and SR 60 is...
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    You can remove the first 5 years of Wasim and see what he did compared to his peers, Wasim away avg is still close to 27 with SR in 60. That's 29 tests in these venue and Donald has 26 tests. Same amount of play for both.
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    Can Cummins make it to the top 10 pacers ever?

    You have Wasim in the list, who underperfomed collectively against so many good sides. Why penalize Donald for underperfoming against one side? Wasim when playing away also did not really set the world on fire compared to others. Look at SR of Wasim, 62 with avg of 27.5 against some of...

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