DrWolverine
International Regular
Because in the next 75 years, we have not seen even one batsman who has come even remotely close to him.
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Wasim Akram vs Allan Donald
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Thala_0710
State Captain
Which is why we he is a clear no 1 imo. But the gap to the next best ATGs isn't as big as it is made out to be. For example, there were quite a few comparison threads recently with the format:
Bradman+Avg player vs 2 ATGs
I don't think Bradman is that good to warrant him compensating for 2 ATGs.
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
This is the average player fwiw (post WWI)
Thala_0710
State Captain
Bradman + X = Hobbs + Marshall
How good should be according to you for this equation to be true? Give a few examples.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
I mean, Hobbs and Marshall aren't just ATG's, one is the best in his primary discipline, the other is arguably the second best. If the equation was
Bradman + X = Walsh + Weekes, I'm ready to take Siraj.
Thala_0710
State Captain
What about the Hobbs and Marshall one
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
X=Jadeja, but he's no average.
Thala_0710
State Captain
Fair enough then. Coincidentally, the exact person who came into my mind was Ravindra Jadeja too.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
I mean, is it really a coincidence?
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
Well you’ve got a bowler and a batsmen… the average test bowler since 1920 averages 32.10.. so using that as a baseline, I’ll take Zaheer Khan + Don Bradman > Jack Hobbs + Malcolm Marshall
Thala_0710
State Captain
Jack Hobbs + Marshall easily better imo
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
lol. Underrating both Bradman and Zaheer is pretty impressive
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Exactly
Coronis
Hall of Fame Member
People will always be idiots, no matter the time
And Bradman’s one weakness - sticky wicket performance - is not a thing in the modern game, so its not thought of or brought up much if at all.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
@peterhrt had literally referred to this in his posts.
The pitches were systematically and with some intent changed (with the Caribbean being the sole exception) by the very early 50's.
And everyone knew the results there after.
The only time that pitches even came close to the flat beds that existed from the mid 20's to the late 40's (where runs came almost to be devalued) was in the 2000's.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
There's probably only two combination of players that I'm taking above Hobbs and Marshall.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Bradman + Decent bowler?
DrWolverine
International Regular
Hadlee + Richards/Sachin