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Best Spinners this Century

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Xix2565

International Regular
subshakerz said:
So what if Ashwin didn't play in the 2nd test in 2018 it was the same batting Lyon was facing.

Ashwin is better in India though Lyon has performed well there IMO. He performed well in tests outside those you mentioned.

Sure Ashwin did better in 2021. But I never disputed that. Only that Lyon has performances vs Ind in Aus that Ashwin doesn't vs Aus.
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So? I discussed them in context of H2Hs, and Lyon's been notably worse there.

Not well enough to be better than Ashwin. Sucks that you can't realise you're backing a choker here.
 
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subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Xix2565 said:
So? I discussed them in context of H2Hs, and Lyon's been notably worse there.
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Yeah that's not how it works, it's not a boxing match. You are facing two different lineups.

Xix2565 said:
Not well enough to be better than Ashwin. Sucks that you can't realise you're backing a choker here.
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Ashwin has consistently chocked in SENA in defining games. I don't even know why you would bring this up.
 
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Xix2565

International Regular
subshakerz said:
Yeah that's not how it works, it's not a boxing match. You are facing two different lineups.


Ashwin has consistently chocked in SENA in defining games. I don't even know why you would bring this up.
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So if we look overall, Ashwin still comes out on top regardless of your hyperfixation on SENA. Doesn't say a lot about you to still be in denial about this.
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Apart from Pakistan, Ajaz Patel has great stats in every country:

Pakistan: 2 tests, 5 wickets @ 64.2

NZ: ZERO wickets for 106 runs (so average of ---) but e/r of 2.16 rpo allowed seamers to rest and rotate ends

Averages in other countries:

20.25 in England
22.87 in India
23.92 in Bangladesh
29.61 in UAE
31.00 in SL
 
subshakerz

subshakerz

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Xix2565 said:
So if we look overall, Ashwin still comes out on top regardless of your hyperfixation on SENA. Doesn't say a lot about you to still be in denial about this.
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Lol as usual you just go back to the fallback of him succeeding in his home spicy conditions.

Lyon better as an allround bowler simple as that.
 
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vidiq

School Boy/Girl Captain
Coronis said:
I mean, Herath has longevity and that’s pretty much it. Obviously they played very different roles but c’mon, Herath averages 40+ in 5 countries.

Maharaj doesn’t take big hauls, and I feel like that would be unreasonable to expect given SA’s attack, but he does his job and keeps it tight and takes wickets pretty much everywhere. Other than weight of wickets as main bowler vs usually 4th most used bowler, Herath’s best thing compared to Maharaj is probably his Australia record. Both struggle vs India home and away.

Odd to say about someone in comparison to Herath, but I think Maharaj is more rounded.
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Saeed Ajmal clears everyone by a decent margin in sena pitches

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Xix2565

International Regular
subshakerz said:
Lol as usual you just go back to the fallback of him succeeding in his home spicy conditions.

Lyon better as an allround bowler simple as that
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Regardless of pitch, he's been superior to every other spinner across the games he's played. Lyon doesn't match that at all.
 
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