Kapil Dev vs Courtney Walsh

[DrWolverine]

Batting & Bowling
Choose one cricketer for an average test team

 

[Thala_0710]

Kapil's batting is not enough for me to overcome the gap in bowling

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kapil's batting is not enough for me to overcome the gap in bowling

Kapil is basically a borderline average batsman. I think it's more than enough personally

 

[subshakerz]

Lol glad to be an inspiration

 

[subshakerz]

Kapil if he was WIndian would be averaging around 26/27. Close enough for his batting and fielding to make a difference.

 

[DrWolverine]

Would Kapil Dev have had better numbers if he had bowled alongside some of the greatest bowlers ever?

 

[subshakerz]

Would Kapil Dev have had better numbers if he had bowled alongside some of the greatest bowlers ever?

Yes

 

[Coronis]

Would Kapil Dev have performed as good in India if he was raised in West Indian conditions?

 

[DrWolverine]

Kapil is basically a borderline average batsman. I think it's more than enough personally

I find it strange that Rahul has played so many Tests
Kapil : Avg of 31. RPI of 28.5.
Rahul : Avg of 33. RPI of 32.2.

 

[Johan]

would Kapil Dev have played Test Cricket in the more developed and advanced era of 2000s? I don't think so

 

[Johan]

/whoosh

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Kapil Easily.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Kapil if he was WIndian would be averaging around 26/27. Close enough for his batting and fielding to make a difference.

Based on what? Your gut? Ironically, some of Kapils best work actually came vs WI, so take that out plus less matches vs minnowesque SL and his record would be worse. People think you can just shoe horn bowler into 80s WI team and they'd come good. Nope.

 

[kyear2]

Kapil's batting is not enough for me to overcome the gap in bowling

It simply isn't.

Especially for the person who's primary role it will be to be your main strike bowler.

 

[kyear2]

Kapil if he was WIndian would be averaging around 26/27. Close enough for his batting and fielding to make a difference.

Where do you come up with this ****?

We played the most in England, he averaged 39 in England.

Or was it too flat there as well?

He averaged 40 in Pakistan, though averaging a respectable 26 In India.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Kapil's English and Pakistan records being termed as complete failures by just average reading is such lame superficial analysis.

 

[kyear2]

Kapil is basically a borderline average batsman. I think it's more than enough personally

A rpi of 28 is a borderline average batsman?

 

[capt_Luffy]

A rpi of 28 is a borderline average batsman?

Lol, go check how much runs an average batsman makes per innings.

 

[kyear2]

The notion that if you're looking for an opening bowler, that you'll choose one based on their batting average, especially when the gap between the two bowlers is this large, defies logic to me.

The if he was born in the WI argument is asinine. The lone warrior argument isn't far behind, Lillee did it for a while, it's supposed to assist your wpm if nothing else. Hadlee also managed it a bit in the same era. Great is great and he averaged a respectable 26 in India.

 

[Sliferxxxx]

Lol, go check how much runs an average batsman makes per innings.

I did and used someone like Richie Richardson. His rpi=41. Using our (WI) "worse" decent batsman ie Sarwan his rpi = 38. Therefore unless we're lowering standards for argument's sake, Dev's batting output is not close to that of an average batsman. It's probably closer to the underachievers like the Hoopers and Logies.