The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[Srinath P]

Gavaskar played Lillee in 1 series only. Hogg and Alderman are nothing special, there is not much reason to rate runs against them but not Thomson, Reid, McDermott and Hughes.

Agree. But

If Boycott has made runs against Lillee as well as Thomson (he has a terrible record against Hughes though)
And Gavaskar has a good record against Thomson, Hughes and McDermott,

Whom should I rate higher?

 

[sayon basak]

My runs in club cricket in 2020 are better than his test form

You play club cricket? That's epic.

 

[sayon basak]

If Boycott has made runs against Lillee as well as Thomson (he has a terrible record against Hughes though)
And Gavaskar has a good record against Thomson, Hughes and McDermott,

You simply shouldn't draw conclusions from this single point.

 

[Johan]

Gavaskar was better than Boycott

 

[sayon basak]

Gavaskar was better than Boycott

Even an English man admitting this. That's how good the man was.

 

[Thala_0710]

You play club cricket? That's epic.

I gave trials for Ranji when I was younger

 

[sayon basak]

I gave trials for Ranji when I was younger

That's epic. @capt_Luffy also plays cricket.

 

[Srinath P]

Hmm, I'm getting it now.

 

[Johan]

Even an English man admitting this. That's how good the man was.
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I think Boycott is close to Gooch so

 

[kyear2]

Gavaskar was one of the best batsman of the 70s-80s. Hutton came just after Bradman and before guys like Sobers and Richards, a big reason for him being in the BAB convo for in many people's eyes.
I have Hutton over Gavaskar too but suggesting that they're not close or in seperate tiers is disrespectful to Gavaskar.

Ok.

Do you see Gavaskar as legitimately in the conversation for best after Bradman?

What is the argument you would use?

Have you ever heard anyone make said argument, or even suggest it?

 

[capt_Luffy]

That's epic. @capt_Luffy also plays cricket.

fk u for bringing that up

 

[Thala_0710]

Ok.

Do you see Gavaskar as legitimately in the conversation for best after Bradman?

What is the argument you would use?

Have you ever heard anyone make said argument, or even suggest it?

I would say that either both Gavaskar and Hutton should be in that BAB group or neither. I personally don't have either one in it.

 

[Johan]

Hutton is certainly in the BAB conversation if Viv or Sobers or hell, even Sachin are.

 

[sayon basak]

fk u for bringing that up

Come on man. I know you are a decent batter.

 

[sayon basak]

I think Boycott is close to Gooch so

Don't think that's a controversial take.

 

[Coronis]

Thank you

Making my points for me, lol

@Johan how does this make you feel

 

[kyear2]

Can you tell me why Gavaskar is rated so highly despite performing against only 2 attacks away from home? Is there something I'm not getting?

He's borderline top 10 and that's fair.

 

[Coronis]

Don't think that's a controversial take.

Its not controversial, just awful.

 

[sayon basak]

Ok.

Do you see Gavaskar as legitimately in the conversation for best after Bradman?

What is the argument you would use?

Have you ever heard anyone make said argument, or even suggest it?

Gavaskar got 12 votes in the ESPN Five cricketers of the century, Hutton got 11.

 

[kyear2]

Gavaskar was great in AUS, WI and PAK and pretty decent in ENG, NZ too. Don't know where all this is coming from.

All in context.

His visits to the Caribbean was well timed, so we're the ones to Australia for the most part.