Which team would win

[Johan]

The top 5 of 48 Ashes:
Hutton
Washbrook
Edrich
Compton
Hardstaff

Blows any current line-up and the one Holding played way out of water.

Lindwall's wickets in his big spells that series

4/52

Compton
Bedser
Evans (who came after Bedser)
Wright

7/63

Washbrook
Edrich
Compton
Yardley
Ikin
Smith
Evans

now imagine if they had a competent lower order and a good WK bat...

 

[sayon basak]

Aus 4-1, WI win dead rubber in Barbados, Bradman untested in WI, fails twice and gets a second ball duck in 2nd inns to Marshall shooter.

Untested doesn't equal to death sentence imo. Don's good enough to adapt.

 

[Johan]

Colour me surprised

Oh Ha Ha

I'd bet good money on Warne being taken to the cleaner by Viv/Lara/Sobers anyway

 

[capt_Luffy]

Lindwall's wickets in his big spells that series

4/52

Compton
Bedser
Evans (who came after Bedser)
Wright

7/63

Washbrook
Edrich
Compton
Yardley
Ikin
Smith
Evans

now imagine if they had a competent lower order and a good WK bat...

Yk as well as I do how far you are pushing this with this agenda...... English batting wasn't just fine but Great and better than that of any team Holding faced.

 

[Coronis]

if you take out Bradman then I don't really know how Australia is supposed to win anywhere in the world but a Current India-like dustbowl or Sydney

You have much to learn young grasshopper.

Not that these teams are what I would construct anyway.

Even without Bradman, Australia has a slight advantage as an ATG team over Windies imo.

For me.. (without Bradman)
Openers - Aussie Advantage
Middle Order - Slight Windies Advantage
Keeper - Big Aussie advantage
Pacers - Windies Advantage
Spinner - Big Aussie advantage

(for me, teams would be)

Hayden
Simpson
Ponting
Smith
Chappell
Border*
Gilchrist+
Davidson
Lindwall
Warne
McGrath

Greenidge
Hunte
Viv
Headley
Lara
Sobers
Walcott/Dujon+
Marshall
Garner
Ambrose
Gibbs

idek who captains the Windies lol

 

[capt_Luffy]

Oh Ha Ha

I'd bet good money on Warne being taken to the cleaner by Viv/Lara/Sobers anyway

I would bet Warne to take Viv for a pair

 

[Johan]

Yk as well as I do how far you are pushing this with this agenda...... English batting wasn't just fine but Great and better than that of any team Holding faced.

dude, Lindwall just isn't that guy, and he sure as well isn't better than Holding, quit it.

 

[capt_Luffy]

You have much to learn young grasshopper.

Not that these teams are what I would construct anyway.

Even without Bradman, Australia has a slight advantage as an ATG team over Windies imo.

For me.. (without Bradman)
Openers - Aussie Advantage
Middle Order - Slight Windies Advantage
Keeper - Big Aussie advantage
Pacers - Windies Advantage
Spinner - Big Aussie advantage

(for me, teams would be)

Hayden
Simpson
Ponting
Smith
Chappell
Border*
Gilchrist+
Davidson
Lindwall
Warne
McGrath

Greenidge
Hunte
Viv
Headley
Lara
Sobers
Walcott/Dujon+
Marshall
Garner
Ambrose
Gibbs

idek who captains the Windies lol

Viv or Sobers (we selected Viv)

 

[capt_Luffy]

dude, Lindwall just isn't that guy, and he sure as well isn't better than Holding, quit it.

Better than Trueman for sure personally

 

[Johan]

You have much to learn young grasshopper.

Not that these teams are what I would construct anyway.

Even without Bradman, Australia has a slight advantage as an ATG team over Windies imo.

For me.. (without Bradman)
Openers - Aussie Advantage
Middle Order - Slight Windies Advantage
Keeper - Big Aussie advantage
Pacers - Windies Advantage
Spinner - Big Aussie advantage

(for me, teams would be)

Hayden
Simpson
Ponting
Smith
Chappell
Border*
Gilchrist+
Davidson
Lindwall
Warne
McGrath

Greenidge
Hunte
Viv
Headley
Lara
Sobers
Walcott/Dujon+
Marshall
Garner
Ambrose
Gibbs

idek who captains the Windies lol

Mate this comes down to me rating Viv two/three tiers above your rating of him

 

[Johan]

Better than Trueman for sure personally

I mean the way you percieve Trueman, you should've Holding like two levels above Trueman

 

[Coronis]

Mate this comes down to me rating Viv two/three tiers above your rating of him

You think that single thing makes up for better openers, easily better keeper bat and far better spinner? Ok.

 

[Johan]

I would bet Warne to take Viv for a pair

I would bet Warne retires citing depression after 5 games with Viv

 

[Johan]

You think that single thing makes up for better openers, easily better keeper bat and far better spinner? Ok.

I don't really agree with better openers, keeper sure, **** spinners. I really only pointed out an Indian dustbowl or Sydney would be a victory for Australia with Warne, I don't really see Warne being all that effective without pitch aid, definitely closer to a liability than an asset.

 

[Coronis]

I don't really agree with better openers, keeper sure, **** spinners

lol

dude, Lindwall just isn't that guy, and he sure as well isn't better than Holding, quit it.

iirc Lindwall beat Holding in the poll last year. At least when I do have a contrary opinion I don’t act like its gospel

 

[sayon basak]

I would bet Warne retires citing depression after 5 games with Viv

Pretty sure Viv would struggle against Warne. After all, he never faced such a great spinner and not very reputed player of spin.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I would bet Warne retires citing depression after 5 games with Viv

Viv might just turn into a T20 Merchant....

I mean the way you percieve Trueman, you should've Holding like two levels above Trueman

Holding and Lindwall are around equal, slightly ahead of Trueman. Lindwall>Trueman I am particularly firm on

I don't really agree with better openers, keeper sure, **** spinners. I really only pointed out an Indian dustbowl or Sydney would be a victory for Australia with Warne, I don't really see Warne being all that effective without pitch aid, definitely closer to a liability than an asset.

Lol if you think Hunte can tie Trumper's shoe laces.

 

[Coronis]

Pretty sure Viv would struggle against Warne. After all, he never faced such a great spinner and not very reputed player of spin.

Warne gets him first ball, picture perfect as he did to Gatting.

Pundits start calling it ball of the millenium.

They stop when it happens three more times in the series.

 

[Johan]

lol

On a serious note, why do you think I pointed out an Asian pitch or Sydney would be an Australian victory, why do you think so?

iirc Lindwall beat Holding in the poll last year. At least when I do have a contrary opinion I don’t act like its gospel

ah well, I guess y'all have the majority on your side.

 

[Coronis]

Viv might just turn into a T20 Merchant....

Holding and Lindwall are around equal, slightly ahead of Trueman. Lindwall>Trueman I am particularly firm on

Lol if you think Hunte can tie Trumper's shoe laces.

What were cricket shoes like in the early 1900’s, I’m curious