Who is the best since Bradman?

[Johan]

1991 tours - all those bowlers had worse record in Aus pitches than Mitchell starc (26 AVG)
Only tour against wi- in 1997/98 -poor old man Walsh averaged 70+ , poor old man Ambrose averaged 30+ , and retired soon after.

what kind of ******** nonsense is this?

Curtly Ambrose 1998-2000 — 98 wickets @ 18.33

Courtney Walsh 1998-2001 — 166 wickets @ 21.57

these are not "poor old men" lmao

 

[sayon basak]

Consistency>peak tbh. At least in test.

 

[Narayana]

Both of those things have caveats too, Sachin's 10/12 yr peak from 93-04 is comparable/arguably better to both Viv's and Smith's. He just doesn't 3-4 consecutive big years as they do. His are more spread out.
Sachin not having a big big series can be a small issue but he just didn't play enough big series of 4/5 matches. He did go big on multiple instances, for ex 2007/08 BGT in Australia where he scored 490+ runs and was given out wrongly twice. He also scored 400+ runs in a 2 match bgt series once as well.

The only argument for sachin over Smith is another peak after 35.,
Sachin was lucky he got the most batting friendly era ever in late 00 era , where top 7 averaged 40+ , and only 1 bowler averaged<25 i.e dale Steyn from 2006-2010 period.
Steve Smith is playing in the most bowling friendly era ever.
So longevity doesn't matter.

 

[sayon basak]

Pretty sure Smith's average would look like Kohli's if he had a 24 year long career.

 

[Johan]

1991 tours - all those bowlers had worse record in Aus pitches than Mitchell starc (26 AVG)
Only tour against wi- in 1997/98 -poor old man Walsh averaged 70+ , poor old man Ambrose averaged 30+ , and retired soon after.

also, Merv Hughes and McDermott both average 26 in Australia, Paul Reiffel was also a capable bowler, Shane Warne is Shane Warne, it was a good enough attack and the ton at Perth was high quality.

 

[Narayana]

what kind of ******** nonsense is this?

Curtly Ambrose 1998-2000 — 98 wickets @ 18.33

Courtney Walsh 1998-2001 — 166 wickets @ 21.57

these are not "poor old men" lmao

Poor old man because all the 4 matches played in dead rubber tracks.

 

[DrWolverine]

@Narayana is Len Hutton the greatest Batsmen of all time?

Maybe. Just one argument against him. The quality of bowlers he faced is inferior to those faced by Sachin, Viv, Lara & Gavaskar.

 

[sayon basak]

So longevity doesn't matter.

 

[Thala_0710]

Ok, this guy is an obvious troll now

 

[Narayana]

Pretty sure Smith's average would look like Kohli's if he had a 24 year long career.

Sachin wouldn't have averaged 50+ in current era.

His adjusted average is 47.43 according to playing conditions lol

 

[Johan]

Poor old man because all the 4 matches played in dead rubber tracks.

No?

The first pitch might be a little spicy, but the second track had ****ing 90s Kumble take a 5fer, Ambrose and Dillon both got wickets, Barbados was also extremely spicy, with even Venkatesh Prasad taking a 5fer.

 

[DrWolverine]

What is real argument against Steven Smith?
He played 98 out of 114 Tests against SENPI
He is playing in a bowling friendly era
He had arguably best 5 year peak since Bradman
He has had quite a few monster series
He has scored 10000 runs so longevity isn’t an issue

 

[sayon basak]

Sachin wouldn't have averaged 50+ in current era.

His adjusted average is 47.43 according to playing conditions lol

Sachin's adjusted average:-
DoG's adjusted average= 50.59
PEWS' adjusted average= 53.10

Don't know what you're talking about.

 

[sayon basak]

What is real argument against Steven Smith?
He played 98 out of 114 Tests against SENPI
He is playing in a bowling friendly era
He had arguably best 5 year peak since Bradman
He has had quite a few monster series
He has scored 10000 runs so longevity isn’t an issue

I'll wait to see how he ends. He legit has a chance to end up with a sub 52 average.

 

[Johan]

What is true argument against Steven Smith?
He played 98 out of 114 Tests against SENPI
He is playing in a bowling friendly era
He had arguably best 5 year peak since Bradman
He has had quite a few monster series

His peak is still very self contained, and he also did have plenty of easy runs against hopeless lineups in 2010s Australia, which was so flat until 2018-19 people started complaining about the spirit of the game.

 

[Thala_0710]

What is real argument against Steven Smith?
He played 98 out of 114 Tests against SENPI
He is playing in a bowling friendly era
He had arguably best 5 year peak since Bradman
He has had quite a few monster series
He has scored 10000 runs so longevity isn’t an issue

Why you including Pakistan in there. Anyway Smith is easily one of the best since Bradman. But here the comparison is Tendulkar. There doesn't need to be any obvious glaring chink in Smith's armour for him not to be no 2

 

[Fanboy375]

Sachin played majority of matches against minnows. Like Williamson.

Sachin succeed in away games

 

[Narayana]

Sachin's adjusted average:-
DoG's adjusted average= 50.59
PEWS' adjusted average= 53.10

Don't know what you're talking about.

Sachin real average -47.45
Virat kohli's real average -50+
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1h5lfr3

 

[Johan]

Sachin real average -47.45
Virat kohli's real average -50+
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cricket/comments/1h5lfr3

omg

I just knew this guy was some Virat simp from Instagram

 

[Narayana]

His peak is still very self contained, and he also did have plenty of easy runs against hopeless lineups in 2010s Australia, which was so flat until 2018-19 people started complaining about the spirit of the game.

I mean How can you say he played against more depleted side like sachin for about 15+ years?