Lords ATG XIs and Bowler Peer Ratings

[Bolo.]

Picking from the Lord's honour board will give a result closer to an English consensus than an international one.

What's the cut-off for punditry here? I watched a couple and both were just Ashes XIs, and both obviously had 'pick my meh team mates in them'

 

[peterhrt]

Even the photographer they interviewed picked Barry and Greenidge.

Patrick Eagar is a Hampshire man. His father captained the county.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Several put Dravid as opener.

Dravid as an opener kinda makes too much sense though..... Like, if I can either only have him or Sehwag in my team to open, I think I will opt for him.

 

[capt_Luffy]

@sayon basak watch all of them and give me the team list picked by all the players. It's interesting but too much for me to watch

 

[sayon basak]

@sayon basak watch all of them and give me the team list picked by all the players. It's interesting but too much for me to watch

The ones @subshakerz provided is enough imo. I went through them 1/2 year ago, believe me, most of the rest are trash (trash=biased)

 

[subshakerz]

The ones @subshakerz provided is enough imo. I went through them 1/2 year ago, believe me, most of the rest are trash (trash=biased)

Yeah batting orders are a mess but I mentioned the consensus picks

 

[sayon basak]

@capt_Luffy guess whom Waqar picked as his opener?


Don Bradman (and he clarifies his choice by saying that Don had great record as an opener)

 

[sayon basak]

Here are some XI's to look at.

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[Coronis]

@capt_Luffy guess whom Waqar picked as his opener?


Don Bradman (and he clarifies his choice by saying that Don had great record as an opener)

Its even better than Barry’s.

 

[subshakerz]

@capt_Luffy guess whom Waqar picked as his opener?


Don Bradman (and he clarifies his choice by saying that Don had great record as an opener)

One major takeaway is that most of them were too lazy to think of the order of the batting. Ganguly basically admits this half way through his XI when he had Ponting at no.7.

 

[sayon basak]

Its even better than Barry’s.

Who's Barry?

 

[capt_Luffy]

The ones @subshakerz provided is enough imo. I went through them 1/2 year ago, believe me, most of the rest are trash (trash=biased)

I just want the complete list to run who made how many teams and so and so

 

[capt_Luffy]

But yeah, most of this teams looks like made by your casual cricket watcher uncle, made after he is down a few pegs in a family gathering when all of sudden AT XIs came up.

 

[kyear2]

Players who had higher reps than I thought based on peer ratings:

McGrath
Hayden
Greenidge
Gooch
Cook
Sanga

Players who had lower:
Gavaskar
Donald
Ambrose
G Smith

None of the guys on the higher list are a surprise, the more recent ones though are yet to pass the test of time and a lot were contemporary groupings. But everyone knows who Hayden and Cook are. Sanga is also one who adjusted after the initial favor.

The lower ones.
For some reason we hold Donald's struggles vs Australia against him. Guys remember Ambrose's second half and by then there was Wasim and McGrath. Sunny, as was briefly discussed a little while ago was seen as a fair weather fighter.

 

[kyear2]

Yeah the lists are a smorgasbord of selections based on random criteria, with some only sticking to peers and others going the all-time players route.

This as well, seriously pushed Cook, Hayden and even Sanga.

 

[kyear2]

You were shouted down for thinking that opinion is true.

Never said they were equal. But, similar to how you refuse to acknowledge that people thought Punter was seen to be on course to be best after Bradman, during various times in the 70's and early 80's Greenidge was seen to be much higher than he's looked at today.

 

[OverratedSanity]

But, similar to how you refuse to acknowledge that people thought Punter was seen to be on course to be best after Bradman

Sorry what? I acknowledge people said it. They were just wrong to do so.

Or atleast that he was already the best since bradman. On course is more debatable.

 

[OverratedSanity]

"Oh but people at the time had a clearly stupid opinion hence we must entertain that they might've been right"

Nah, actually

 

[subshakerz]

Sanga is also one who adjusted after the initial favor.

What do you mean?

The lower ones.
For some reason we hold Donald's struggles vs Australia against him.

Why shouldn't we? We do the same for Botham and WI.

 

[subshakerz]

"Oh but people at the time had a clearly stupid opinion hence we must entertain that they might've been right"

Nah, actually

I think the point is at the time it didn't seem so stupid though. Similar to Smith around 2019 though not to that extent.