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Sir I. V. A. Richards vs Sir Walter Hammond
- Thread starter kyear2
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Coronis
International Coach
Is interesting how both have their best performances at 3 yet spent the majority of their careers not batting 3. (5 for Richards - also a ton at 4 and 4 for Hammond)
Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Lol no. Sadly no. 3 requires more than flat track bullying.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
There is only one answer to all questions on CW and its not Ponting
if India had givenhim the shot to bat one drop, he would have been best
have you ever watched a game of cricket?
kyear2
International Coach
Think he's a very viable alternative and next in line.
Similar to Ponting Viv was just a natural choice for the no. 3 position. The ability to not only handle but dominate fast bowling and potentially turn the tide of a match in a session.
He was the Master Blaster, King Viv.
Hammond, while undoubtedly a brilliant player, did express his displeasure having to face the west indies quicks, who were in no way comparable to the legends that Viv battled with.
Fuller Pilch
Hall of Fame Member
Headley also worth a shout imo.
Highest averages at no 3 (min 30 innings):
Bradman - 103.63
Barrington - 77.24
Hammond - 74.78
Headley - 71.17
Viv - 61.54
Sangakkara - 60.83
Lara - 60.47
Williamson - 58.19
Labuschagne - 56.81
Ponting - 56.27
Others over 50 - Dravid, Kanhai, Dexter, Younis Khan, Bill Edrich, Ian Chappell
Amla, Kallis, Graveney, and Gower all in the 49s
Highest averages at no 3 (min 30 innings):
Bradman - 103.63
Barrington - 77.24
Hammond - 74.78
Headley - 71.17
Viv - 61.54
Sangakkara - 60.83
Lara - 60.47
Williamson - 58.19
Labuschagne - 56.81
Ponting - 56.27
Others over 50 - Dravid, Kanhai, Dexter, Younis Khan, Bill Edrich, Ian Chappell
Amla, Kallis, Graveney, and Gower all in the 49s
Coronis
International Coach
Barrington worth a shout imo. But again, he didn’t play the majority of his career there, just like Wally and Viv.
For blokes who mainly played 3 I’d say its between Sanga, Ponting and Dravid. Headley worth throwing in there too but its always a little hard to rate him.
kyear2
International Coach
This is an even bigger plus for Ponting, not only did he stay on in the team, he didn't migrate further down the order in an attempt to help protect his numbers.
Kenneth Viljoen
International Regular
Anyone here have footage of Hammond batting?
Coronis
International Coach
I don’t think retirement or migrating down the order is about protecting numbers in most cases - its more often about younger batsmen who may have already a “specialist” position they bat in and the player/teams confidence they can adapt to a different position.
Migrating down the order to “protect their average” specifically makes no sense in this case as all these batsmen mentioned have their highest averages at #3
Patience and Accuracy+Gut
State Vice-Captain
Johan
State Vice-Captain
Fraud.
DrWolverine
U19 Debutant
Any statistic he is in Top 5
But sadly doesn’t make it to even Top 10 of anyone’s all time great batsmen list