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Victor Trumper vs Wilfred Rhodes

Rhodes vs Trumper


  • Total voters
    6

sayon basak

International Debutant
Players Striking ar 58 or above:-
1. V Sehwag (Ind) 82.2
2. AC Gilchrist (Aus) 82.0
3. N Kapil Dev (Ind) 80.5
4. Q de Kock (SAf) 70.9
5. DA Warner (Aus) 70.2
6. Sarfraz Ahmed (Pak) 70.2
7. IVA Richards (WI) 68-69
8. VT Trumper (Aus) 66-67
9. DPDN Dickwella (SL) 66.5
10. TM Dilshan (SL) 65.5
11. ST Jayasuriya (SL) 65.2
12. K Srikkanth (Ind) 65.1
13. TM Head (Aus) 64.7
14. Z Crawley (Eng) 64.7
15. BB McCullum (NZ) 64.6
16. SM Patil (Ind) 63.6
17. IDS Smith (NZ) 63.2
18. Kamran Akmal (Pak) 63.1
19. A Flintoff (Eng) 62.1
20. Shakib Al Hasan (Ban) 62.0
21. KP Pietersen (Eng) 61.7
22. MJ Prior (Eng) 61.7
23. SJ McCabe (Aus) 61.5
24. DG Bradman (Aus) 61-62
25. IT Botham (Eng) 60.7
26. BC Lara (WI) 60.5
27. Habibul Bashar (Ban) 60.3
28. CH Gayle (WI) 60.3
29. FE Woolley (Eng) 60-61
30. ML Hayden (Aus) 60.1
31. GC Smith (SAf) 59.7
32. CH Lloyd (WI) 59-60
33. LRPL Taylor (NZ) 59.3
34. MS Dhoni (Ind) 59.1
35. JM Bairstow (Eng) 59.1
36. BA Stokes (Eng) 59.0
37. FM Engineer (Ind) 58-59
38. AL Logie (WI) 58.8
39. EdeC Weekes (WI) 58-59
40. RT Ponting (Aus) 58.7
41. C Hill (Aus) 58-59
42. BJ Haddin (Aus) 58.4
43. DL Vettori (NZ) 58.2
44. Tamim Iqbal (Ban) 58.0
 
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Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Players Striking ar 58 or above:-
1. V Sehwag (Ind) 82.2
2. AC Gilchrist (Aus) 82.0
3. N Kapil Dev (Ind) 80.5
4. Q de Kock (SAf) 70.9
5. DA Warner (Aus) 70.2
6. Sarfraz Ahmed (Pak) 70.2
7. IVA Richards (WI) 68-69
8. VT Trumper (Aus) 66-67
9. DPDN Dickwella (SL) 66.5
10. TM Dilshan (SL) 65.5
11. ST Jayasuriya (SL) 65.2
12. K Srikkanth (Ind) 65.1
13. TM Head (Aus) 64.7
14. Z Crawley (Eng) 64.7
15. BB McCullum (NZ) 64.6
16. SM Patil (Ind) 63.6
17. IDS Smith (NZ) 63.2
18. Kamran Akmal (Pak) 63.1
19. A Flintoff (Eng) 62.1
20. Shakib Al Hasan (Ban) 62.0
21. KP Pietersen (Eng) 61.7
22. MJ Prior (Eng) 61.7
23. SJ McCabe (Aus) 61.5
24. DG Bradman (Aus) 61-62
25. IT Botham (Eng) 60.7
26. BC Lara (WI) 60.5
27. Habibul Bashar (Ban) 60.3
28. CH Gayle (WI) 60.3
29. FE Woolley (Eng) 60-61
30. ML Hayden (Aus) 60.1
31. GC Smith (SAf) 59.7
32. CH Lloyd (WI) 59-60
33. LRPL Taylor (NZ) 59.3
34. MS Dhoni (Ind) 59.1
35. JM Bairstow (Eng) 59.1
36. BA Stokes (Eng) 59.0
37. FM Engineer (Ind) 58-59
38. AL Logie (WI) 58.8
39. EdeC Weekes (WI) 58-59
40. RT Ponting (Aus) 58.7
41. C Hill (Aus) 58-59
42. BJ Haddin (Aus) 58.4
43. DL Vettori (NZ) 58.2
44. Tamim Iqbal (Ban) 58.0
Tim (93 6s) Southee is higher than everyone on this list.
 

sayon basak

International Debutant
Tim (93 6s) Southee is higher than everyone on this list.
Qualification: 2500 runs for recent careers. 1,500 runs for careers ending before year 2000. Batting average greater than 20.

That's how Southee missed out.
And Shahid Afridi missed out for having sub 2500 runs.
 

sayon basak

International Debutant
Actually in the 1900’s and 1910’s scoring rate in tests was at its fastest until the 21st century.
Only 6 players from that decade in the top 100 tho (if Woolley, Macartney and Barnsley counted; shouldn't be counted as they played significantly more tests in the next decade).

And also,
Run per over in 1900-1910:- 2.89 (S/R=48.17)
Runs per over in 1910-1999:- 2.68 (S/R=44.67)

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And 1910-1920 was faster:-
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Coronis

International Coach
Only 6 players from that decade in the top 100 tho (if Woolley, Macartney and Barnsley counted; shouldn't be counted as they played significantly more tests in the next decade).

And also,
Run per over in 1900-1910:- 2.89 (S/R=48.17)
Runs per over in 1910-1999:- 2.68 (S/R=44.67)

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Why are you conveniently ignoring the 1910’s where Trumper did play?

Besides we’re takking about eras here, why would you take a sample of 10 years vs a sample of 90 years lol.
 

sayon basak

International Debutant
Why are you conveniently ignoring the 1910’s where Trumper did play?
Only played 10 tests and didn't play in more than half of it ig?
If 1899-1914 is considered, the RPO would go from 2.89 to 2.90.
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Besides we’re takking about eras here, why would you take a sample of 10 years vs a sample of 90 years lol.
Not arguing against the fact that 1900's and 1910's are the fastest scoring era in 20th century, but other decades are still close enough.
Some of the fastest scoring decades since 1920 in 20th century.
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Also 1900's and 1910's S/R is boosted because of Victor Trumper (and Clem Hill); would be closer if they're excluded.
 

Coronis

International Coach
Only played 10 tests and didn't play in more than half of it ig?
If 1899-1914 is considered, the RPO would go from 2.89 to 2.90.
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Not arguing against the fact that 1900's and 1910's are the fastest scoring era in 20th century, but other decades are still close enough.
Some of the fastest scoring decades since 1920 in 20th century.
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Also 1900's and 1910's S/R is boosted because of Victor Trumper (and Clem Hill); would be closer if they're excluded.
No duh, excluding the faster players lowers the overall strike rate…
 

sayon basak

International Debutant
No duh, excluding the faster players lowers the overall strike rate…
Just saying that Trumper was way ahead of others even in a comparatively high scoring era. Besides, Trumper played in 38 of all 48 matches in that decade. So, he played a bigger role to boost the RPO compared to other fast scoring player in other eras.
 

fredfertang

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
That there have been 17 books/booklets devoted to Trumper published in the last ten years and just one on Rhodes says it all for me - that said at least the one on Rhodes is a definitive biography, and we still haven't had one of those on Vic, though I believe that one may be being worked on
 

Coronis

International Coach
That there have been 17 books/booklets devoted to Trumper published in the last ten years and just one on Rhodes says it all for me - that said at least the one on Rhodes is a definitive biography, and we still haven't had one of those on Vic, though I believe that one may be being worked on
Bit sad that a top 3 FC cricketer ever and the bloke with the longest test career and oldest bloke to play a test career is likely completely unknown to the vast majority of cricket fans.
 

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