The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

[kyear2]

I don't think Kallis gets in that team tbh

Who gets in ahead of him?

 

[subshakerz]

Who gets in ahead of him?

Already told ya. Hammond is a logical choice.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Who gets in ahead of him?

A more aggressive specialist bat. Lara, Ponting, Root or probably a bunch of other guys pre 1990 that I don't have the energy to pretend I know about right now

 

[Line and Length]

Hutton ahead of Sutcliffe for me.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

A more aggressive specialist bat. Lara, Ponting, Root or probably a bunch of other guys pre 1990 that I don't have the energy to pretend I know about right now

Only pick one of Hammond or Kallis.
For the other spot, get a lefthander: Lara, Sanga, or GPollock. If you want a RH pick Smitj

 

[subshakerz]

A more aggressive specialist bat. Lara, Ponting, Root or probably a bunch of other guys pre 1990 that I don't have the energy to pretend I know about right now

I think the point is that for a middle order of an ATG XI, we can even concede on a 5th bowling option if we have the best possible bats there.

Kallis is by no means a lock if Sobers isn't there.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Only pick one of Hammond or Kallis.
For the other spot, get a lefthander: Lara, Sanga, or GPollock

Also agree re Hutton

 

[TheJediBrah]

I think the point is that for a middle order of an ATG XI, we can even concede on a 5th bowling option if we have the best possible bats there.

Kallis is by no means a lock if Sobers isn't there.

That team has a 5th and 6th option though. Like Fuller Pilch said, only need 1 of Kallis or Hammond. They're going to be doing a holding role with the ball at best anyway

 

[Coronis]

I’d rather take out Hammond than Kallis, as a big Hammond fan here. Would put in Lara or Smith.

 

[subshakerz]

I’d rather take out Hammond than Kallis, as a big Hammond fan here. Would put in Lara or Smith.

Lol you're also a big Kallis fan.

 

[subshakerz]

That team has a 5th and 6th option though. Like Fuller Pilch said, only need 1 of Kallis or Hammond. They're going to be doing a holding role with the ball at best anyway

I agree. In that case, it should be Hammond as a clearly better bat.

A holding role with the ball shouldn't be a reason to have a lesser bat in the ATG middle order.

 

[subshakerz]

For no Sobers, it should be:

Hobbs
Gavaskar
Bradman
Tendulkar
Viv
Hammond
Gilly
Imran
Marshall
Warne
McGrath

 

[Bolo.]

A more aggressive specialist bat. Lara, Ponting, Root or probably a bunch of other guys pre 1990 that I don't have the energy to pretend I know about right now

Why would you want a more aggressive bat specifically? The lineup is stacked with aggression and lacking in players that can grind the opposition out.

 

[Coronis]

Why would you want a more aggressive bat specifically? The lineup is stacked with aggression and lacking in players that can grind the opposition out.

I’m not sure where the line for an aggressive bat is. Is Gambhir considered aggressive?

 

[kyear2]

Agree re Lara. Better to have a lefthander in the top 6 and he can push the rate along

Actually a valid point. With no Sobers the only leftie is in at 7.



Richards

Hutton

Bradman

Tendulkar

Lara (only in this scenario)

Kallis

Gilchrist

Wasim

Marshall

Warne

McGrath

But Kallis is a no brainier and critically fills that 2nd slip slot as Sobers does as well.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Actually a valid point. With no Sobers the only leftie is in at 7.



Richards

Hutton

Bradman

Tendulkar

Lara (only in this scenario)

Kallis

Gilchrist

Wasim

Marshall

Warne

McGrath

But Kallis is a no brainier and critically fills that 2nd slip slot as Sobers does as well.

Don't know if I will have Viv opening tbh......

 

[kyear2]

Kallis sticks out like a sore thumb and isn't needed if Hammond is there.

Do you recall how you railed against this argument with regards to Imran?

Just saying. Which is it? And I never even used that terminology.

 

[kyear2]

I agree. In that case, it should be Hammond as a clearly better bat.

A holding role with the ball shouldn't be a reason to have a lesser bat in the ATG middle order.

Ummmmmmm, so I assume Hadlee is definitely in your team over Imran then. Just using this same logic

 

[kyear2]

Don't know if I will have Viv opening tbh......

Kudos bud, that was actually funny.

 

[kyear2]

Why would you want a more aggressive bat specifically? The lineup is stacked with aggression and lacking in players that can grind the opposition out.

Sachin in my mind fills that role, along with Hutton. That's somewhat good enough