Andy Flower vs Alan Knott

[capt_Luffy]

It's really not fine, but carry on.

Dude, Indian fans aren't complaining but here you are! I am 100% sure if prime Saha played now, he won't get a game, and 99.94% Indian fans will agree.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Where did I say he was the reason?

But how many half chances / chances did he not come close to?

His keeping since his return hasn't been good, he looks untidy and is missing chances.

But according to you it's all good because he may score a match winning innings.

And if you can't watch him and Jurel and see how much better he is, then.......

And re the loss, at one point I swear the commentators were just repeating the stuff I've been advocating.

First thing this morning talking about the importance of having quality in the slips, involving Dravid and VVS and now demoralizing it was to see chances not even go to hand.

Then the impact that Jaiswal's scoring rate had on the game, he out the bowlers and the captain on the back foot and set a ridiculous platform for the game.

And yeah, that no tail can consistently make up for weak middle order, especially not against good to great (which it's arguable if it was) opposition.

There's more, but no need to go further.

Would you play jurel ahead of Pant

 

[sayon basak]

Dude, Indian fans aren't complaining but here you are! I am 100% sure if prime Saha played now, he won't get a game, and 99.94% Indian fans will agree.

The remaining 0.06% is Eric Hollies.

 

[kyear2]

Would you play jurel ahead of Pant

As the wicketkeeper, yes.

 

[CodeOfWisden]

And how is that working out?

Oh yes, India lost due to Pant’s keeping.

None of the Indians actually believe that, our top order stinks vs spin, thats the reason of loss not the half chance that Pant didn’t take.

 

[kyear2]

Oh yes, India lost due to Pant’s keeping.

None of the Indians actually believe that, our top order stinks vs spin, thats the reason of loss not the half chance that Pant didn’t take.

Meant that they all are sloppy and missing chances.

The overall standard of keeping has appreciably dipped.

 

[kyear2]

Dude, Indian fans aren't complaining but here you are! I am 100% sure if prime Saha played now, he won't get a game, and 99.94% Indian fans will agree.

So, India aside, a couple questions if you would.

And to gauge what you think is the level of a world class wicketkeeper.

1. Do you consider Pant to be a world class keeper.

And 2. Imagine for a second that we do get access to that time machine... We have a squad travelling to Proxima to take on our very best. Remember we have a batting line up that constitutes the very greatest of all time, from Bradman to Sobers the batting is stacked. Gilchrist is the first choice keeper and we're selecting a backup and it's now between Knott and Pant. Considering team needs (and strengths) and how Pant is now looking behind the stumps, do you think Pant is of the necessary class to keep in that area and are you choosing him over Knott.

The main thing I was watching for in the last series, well one of the two, Jaiswal being the other, was how Pant was behind the stumps. In the last innings if the match they even put together a compilation of his miscues at some point.

And before someone brings it up, no, I'm not remotely saying he's the reason they lost, I'm just asking as to how you rate him as a keeper

 

[peterhrt]

The main thing I was watching for in the last series, well one of the two, Jaiswal being the other, was how Pant was behind the stumps. In the last innings if the match they even put together a compilation of his miscues at some point.

It was clear that Ashwin in particular, and also Sharma, were growing increasingly frustrated/annoyed with Pant's wicket-keeping. Stokes didn't look too impressed with some of Jamie Smith's work behind the stumps either.

 

[sayon basak]

It was clear that Ashwin in particular, and also Sharma, were growing increasingly frustrated/annoyed with Pant's wicket-keeping. Stokes didn't look too impressed with some of Jamie Smith's work behind the stumps either.

Putting aside some instances, Most of the times when Ashwin seemed annoyed were him pitching the ball at the leg stump and then the ball bouncing over Pants neck.

 

[kyear2]

It was clear that Ashwin in particular, and also Sharma, were growing increasingly frustrated/annoyed with Pant's wicket-keeping. Stokes didn't look too impressed with some of Jamie Smith's work behind the stumps either.

Yeah, I don't personally look at him and think world class performer.