Joe Root vs Ponting

[Majestic]

Sanga is better than Ponting

@BazBall21 , @capt_Luffy

 

[Majestic]

I once had a look at the average Australia score when Ponting entered the crease. It was 75. The average for when Root has entered is probably lower than that.

Much lower, he played in a team that has openers struggling to average 30+ except ofcourse Cook.

 

[BazBall21]

Much lower, he played in a team that has openers struggling to average 30+ except ofcourse Cook.

Ponting is better and Root would need a very strong finish to change that. But Root has never at any point had a half decent top 3 ahead of him, and has played in a tougher era in a more bowler-friendly country. He has innumerable hundreds after being brought to the crease very early. Ponting had a machine-like opening partnership ahead of him in his prime; batting a position higher has little value in this comparison imo.

 

[capt_Luffy]

@BazBall21 , @capt_Luffy

I agree to that actually.

 

[BazBall21]

@BazBall21 , @capt_Luffy

Ponting just

 

[Johan]

Ponting>Sangakkara is a stance I'm 10000000% sure I have but I don't think I would be able to make an argument to statistically justify it, at all.

 

[danzydab]

Ponting was a better player of pace bowling and he averaged 48 in Sri Lanka and scored alot in the UAE and Pakistan, so its not like he was that bad player of spin.

But if Root has a good ashes down under, then he is the obvious choice. Australian pitches in the 2000s were flat.
Ever since 2018, it has been more difficult for batsmen in tests.

And Root has carried England countless number of times.

 

[Victor Ian]

Not yet, but I think Root is going to be one of those players that get better and better. He's probably going to do an Anderson.

 

[Victor Ian]

Can someone project Roots stats if he plays until 40 and maintains output of the last few years?

 

[ashley bach]

Peak Ponting was God like.
Root will need to have a big Ashes series next year to come into serious contention.

 

[Prince EWS]

I'll take Root for his bowling

I'll actually take Garner.

For his bowling.

 

[BazBall21]

Batting isn't as draining as bowling and yes England do play more Tests than other countries, but it would take a hell of a lot of desire and obsessiveness to go past Tendulkar's 15,921.

 

[Victor Ian]

Why does Root need a good Australian series? It's not like Ponting covered all bases.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Batting isn't as draining as bowling and yes England do play more Tests than other countries, but it would take a hell of a lot of desire and obsessiveness to go past Tendulkar's 15,921.

The thing is if he carries on like he is at present he will be in 2nd place on the list by the end of the Ashes down under and may only be 2 home summers of good output away from catching Tendulkar. He will probably have a dip in form at some point so would take longer but it is feasible he will do it given how many matches we play.

 

[Johan]

Why does Root need a good Australian series? It's not like Ponting covered all bases.

Well I will admit that my stance may be influenced somewhat via Nostalgia

 

[BazBall21]

It's a valid point considering Ponting was worse in India (albeit less opportunities). He had a couple of decent series elsewhere in Asia but Root has done fairly well in SA which balances that out. Lacking a ton in Australia is a big blot though. Next year's ashes is massive.

 

[BazBall21]

The thing is if he carries on like he is at present he will be in 2nd place on the list by the end of the Ashes down under and may only be 2 home summers of good output away from catching Tendulkar. He will probably have a dip in form at some point so would take longer but it is feasible he will do it given how many matches we play.

Oh yeah he will easily be 2nd barring a bad injury.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Ponting still for me. Root has the respect of other sides but I doubt he fills you with fear like Ponting did me. Only Viv and Ponting gave me that feeling and obviously Lara and Tendulkar once they got in but Pontings wicket was probably the one I wanted us to get most in his career given the magnitude of the matches and how he destroyed us so often.

 

[Johan]

It's a valid point considering Ponting was worse in India (albeit less opportunities). He had a couple of decent series elsewhere in Asia but Root has done fairly well in SA which balances that out. Lacking a ton in Australia is a big blot though. Next year's ashes is massive.

I think it stands out for Root specifically because it's like, the literal only blot in his record, everything else might as well be picture perfect.

 

[Coronis]

I think it stands out for Root specifically because it's like, the literal only blot in his record, everything else might as well be picture perfect.

Like my posts and my face.