Allan Border vs Younis Khan

[PlayerComparisons]

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[Kenneth Viljoen]

Allan Border every day of the week.

 

[sayon basak]

It's obviously AB. The question is how close it is.

 

[kyear2]

Allan Border every day of the week.

This

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Border was an all conditions genius who mastered batting everywhere from 3-6, had dominating series against the quartet, Botham and Willis, Imran Khan/Sarfaraz, peak Hadlee. How is this a serious question

 

[capt_Luffy]

Border was an all conditions genius who mastered batting everywhere from 3-6, had dominating series against the quartet, Botham and Willis, Imran Khan/Sarfaraz, peak Hadlee. How is this a serious question

Well, Younis is arguably the best batsman ever in Asia and Border did bat plenty at 5 and 6, that too for a pretty weak lineup. The question isn't who is better, ofcourse Border is, but how big is that perceived gap.

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Well, Younis is arguably the best batsman ever in Asia and Border did bat plenty at 5 and 6, that too for a pretty weak lineup. The question isn't who is better, ofcourse Border is, but how big is that perceived gap.

But Border batted for a significant time at 3 and 4 and has a very good record. And Border even at 5 and 6 carried a very weak lineup. Border’s all conditions record and versatility easily wins him this

 

[HouHsiaoHsien]

Plus that he had good series against many ATG/ATVGs from that period

 

[Majestic]

Border

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Surprised by this result but think I agree with it.

Younis is probably closer to guys like Graeme Smith/Root/Boycott/Greenidge.

 

[Coronis]

Surprised by this result but think I agree with it.

Younis is probably closer to guys like Graeme Smith/Root/Boycott/Greenidge.

Why?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Why?

I thought “Border but it’s close” would win. I thought Dravid was rated very close to Border and “Dravid but it’s close” won the Dravid vs Younis poll

 

[Coronis]

I thought “Border but it’s close” would win. I thought Dravid was rated very close to Border and “Dravid but it’s close” won the Dravid vs Younis poll

Personally, I would have Border at the lower end of a tier ahead of Dravid and Younis, who would be in the upper end of a tier below him.

i.e I voted not close since I have them in different tiers.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Personally, I would have Border at the lower end of a tier ahead of Dravid and Younis, who would be in the upper end of a tier below him.

i.e I voted not close since I have them in different tiers.

Yea I think I agree with that

 

[capt_Luffy]

I thought “Border but it’s close” would win. I thought Dravid was rated very close to Border and “Dravid but it’s close” won the Dravid vs Younis poll

I mean, A can be close to B and B close to C, doesn't mean A is also close to C; especially when A is ahead and C is below B.

 

[sayon basak]

I mean, A can be close to B and B close to C, doesn't mean A is also close to C; especially when A is ahead and C is below B.

Yeah,
Let A-B=B-C
Then A+C=2B
Or, A=B+n,C=B-n; assuming A>C
The bigger n is, the bigger the gap between them is.
(Yeah I'm stupid)

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Tier 1: Tendulkar, Lara, Viv, Sobers

Tier 2: Gavaskar, Smith, Chappell, Ponting, Sangakkara, Kallis, Border, Waugh

Tier 3: Dravid, Miandad, Younis, Kohli, De Villiers, Root, Williamson, G Smith, Boycott

Hardest one to rate is Dravid who I might put at the bottom of tier 2 on another day

 

[sayon basak]

Tier 1: Tendulkar, Lara, Viv, Sobers

Tier 2: Gavaskar, Smith, Chappell, Ponting, Sangakkara, Kallis, Border, Waugh

Tier 3: Dravid, Miandad, Younis, Kohli, De Villiers, Root, Williamson, G Smith, Boycott

Hardest one to rate is Dravid who I might put at the bottom of tier 2 on another day

I wouldn't rate Graeme Smith that high but respectable.

 

[capt_Luffy]

I wouldn't rate Graeme Smith that high but respectable.

Agreed. Recently Smith turned into the most overrated player here. He definitely was quite close to Hayden and Sehwag and not in a different tier

 

[sayon basak]

Agreed. Recently Smith turned into the most overrated player here. He definitely was quite close to Hayden and Sehwag and not in a different tier

That's very true. I think there should be a thread about the most underrated and overrated players in cricketweb.