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What would an ATG game really look like?

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RossTaylorsBox

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
W.G. Grace decides to be a TikTok influencer and misses half the training sessions.

Hutton is jailed after it turns out he placed numerous spot bets on the match.

Bradman gets a broken nose after fistfighting "woke" Pat Cummins.

Barry Richards hits 32* in the first match then promptly retires, saying his sample size is now large enough that he can be considered the second best batsman ever.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
RossTaylorsBox said:
W.G. Grace decides to be a TikTok influencer and misses half the training sessions.

Hutton is jailed after it turns out he placed numerous spot bets on the match.

Bradman gets a broken nose after fistfighting "woke" Pat Cummins.

Barry Richards hits 32* in the first match then promptly retires, saying his sample size is now large enough that he can be considered the second best batsman ever.
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What winning a thread looks like
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
RossTaylorsBox said:
W.G. Grace decides to be a TikTok influencer and misses half the training sessions.

Hutton is jailed after it turns out he placed numerous spot bets on the match.

Bradman gets a broken nose after fistfighting "woke" Pat Cummins.

Barry Richards hits 32* in the first match then promptly retires, saying his sample size is now large enough that he can be considered the second best batsman ever.
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Miller absent the night before a big game with late night clubbing.

Sobers fined heavily for consistently turning up drunk to training sessions.
 
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HouHsiaoHsien

International Debutant
subshakerz said:
Here's how I see them doing in a series in England, subject to revision:

PEWS XI
Sir Leonard Hutton - Averages early 30s, a bit conservative and will end up getting stuck on the crease but will see off the new ball
Sunil Gavaskar - Same as above
Walter Hammond^ - Averages early-40s, mostly struggles at no.3 but manages a couple of awesome tons that jump the average up
Sachin Tendulkar - Averages late-30s, fairly consistent but doesnt dominate any innings, lets other bat around him mostly but is able to pick off the bowlers who are more worn down
Brian Lara^ - Averages mid 20s - Some great cameos but exposed against great pace
Sir Garfield Sobers^ (5) - Average 50s, takes advantage of no.6 position and regularly counterattacks
Adam Gilchrist+ - Averages mid-20s, a bit out of his depth but some hard hitting 50s here or there
Imran Khan* (3) - Raises his game as he does against top opp, ends up near or at top of wicket list though a bit higher bowling average in mid 20s and a couple of, low scoring with the bat but manages to help draw a game
Shane Warne (4) - Averages in the 30s with the ball, a couple of penetrative late match spell but nothing much else
Sir Curtly Ambrose (2) Averages in the early 20s, very restrictive but not especially high wicket-taking
Glenn McGrath (1) Averages in the late teens and a consistent new ball star and key wicket-taker

Kyear XI
Sir John Hobbs - Averages late 30s, pinned down but hard to dismiss
Barry Richards^ - Hard to tell
Sir Donald Bradman* - Averages in the late 60s, gets slowly more figured out by the end of the series based on a Ambrose-McGrath offside chokehold
Sir I.V. A. Richards^ - Averages in the mid-30s, some great cameo knocks but eventually one risk too many
Steven Smith - Averages in the late 30s, adapts and is generally consistent
Jacques Kallis^ (5) - Averages in the early 30s,
Allan Knott+ - Gritty knocks, stellar with the gloves
Sir Richard Hadlee (2) - Averages in the mid-20s, very good with the new ball but loses sting as third seamer
Malcom Marshall (1) Averages in the early 20s, consistently hostile and star performer
Dale Steyn (3) - Averages in 30s, weak link in England, given new ball sometimes in the series which clicks to accomodate for some wayward spells
Muttiah Muralitharan (4) - Similar to Warne but has one spell where he threatens to run through the side in the 4th innings
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If we’re taking peak versions, I see Hobbs and Richards both averaging early 40s, cause of their brilliance in these conditions. And Marshall averaging more or less the same as Mcgrath.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
subshakerz said:
Miller absent the night before a big game with late night clubbing.

Sobers fined heavily for consistently turning up drunk to training sessions.
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Watched an interview with Sobers a couple days ago, he was quite clear that no matter the captain or era, he would be doing what he wanted.

Can't get past the thought that he was all at once the absolute worse and the absolute best.

Between his tendency to want to be the centre of everything and over bowl himself and his horrible discipline off the pitch, like Miller he could have been so much more.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
kyear2 said:
Watched an interview with Sobers a couple days ago, he was quite clear that no matter the captain or era, he would be doing what he wanted.

Can't get past the thought that he was all at once the absolute worse and the absolute best.

Between his tendency to want to be the centre of everything and over bowl himself and his horrible discipline off the pitch, like Miller he could have been so much more.
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Garry Sobers starred in an innings victory after a night (and some of the day) about the town
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Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
kyear2 said:
Watched an interview with Sobers a couple days ago, he was quite clear that no matter the captain or era, he would be doing what he wanted.

Can't get past the thought that he was all at once the absolute worse and the absolute best.

Between his tendency to want to be the centre of everything and over bowl himself and his horrible discipline off the pitch, like Miller he could have been so much more.
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Hey you never know, if he wasn’t that free spirited in life he may not have been so wonderful on the pitch. Besides, giving your star players freedom (especially on the pitch) is important. Remember what happened when they took the new ball away from Barnes?

Probably Bradman might not be a great choice for captain in an ATG side. While he definitely respected Woodfull (who doesn’t? in fact I’ve never read a bad word about him) I think his overriding competitive nature would still shine through, he’d sulk if other players were less than 100% focused (and then could rightly whinge to the media) but he’d still maintain his performance, unlike some others who if they were unhappy might curtail their own performance, whether deliberately or unconsciously.
 
kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
HouHsiaoHsien said:
If we’re taking peak versions, I see Hobbs and Richards both averaging early 40s, cause of their brilliance in these conditions. And Marshall averaging more or less the same as Mcgrath.
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You, Peter and one other poster that escapes me at the moment, convinced me that I had I've under rated Viv a little, he's still 5th, but elevated a sub tier.

After watching more of WSC, Greg Chappell is another I have to raise, just not sure to where as yet. He was like a slower (bowling) modern day Hammond. The cover driving, brilliant slip, all of it.

Anyways, a 3rd XI, showing who would have just missed the cut, also a bit of a drop off in some areas.

Sutcliffe
Simpson
Headley / Ponting
Chappell
Pollock
Worrell
Cameron
Procter / Wasim
Garner / Donald
Lillee
O'Reilly
 
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Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
kyear2 said:
You, Peter and one other poster that escapes me at the moment, convinced me that I had I've under rated Viv a little, he's still 5th, but elevated a sub tier.

After watching more of WSC, Greg Chappell is another I have to raise, just not sure to where as yet. He was like a slower (bowling) modern day Hammond. The cover driving, brilliant slip, all of it.

Anyways, a 3rd XI, showing who would have just missed the cut, also a bit of a drop off in some areas.

Sutcliffe
Simpson
Headley / Ponting
Chappell
Pollock
Worrell
Cameron
Procter / Wasim
Garner / Donald
Lillee
O'Reilly
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I have no words. Next thing you’ll be saying you’ve underrated Marshall.
 
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