capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
He is better than Dravid, I believe that. But by how much is very debatable. Also, Pollock isn't on the same tier with Sobers also.
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Rahul Dravid vs Graeme Pollock
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no one who follows cricket can say that with confidence. Pollock averaged over 20 tests what Dravid did over a 100 in the flattest track era in the history of cricket. Pollock barely faced any great bowlers, Dravid did. It’s just a myth developed around Pollock because of what might have been. Tangibly, there is ZERO case he is better than Dravid and anyone who believes so does it out of nostalgia, racism or poor analysis.
what basis do you have to believe he’s better than Dravid?
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
I think we agree.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
All these arguments can be used to show Pollock < Yousuf. Now you are bringing racism into it. Desperate.
Yousuf is not being discussed. I’ve made my argument, make yours.
kyear2
International Coach
Jesus, this racism **** again, Tendulkar is universally seen as a top 4 bat of all time, Gavaskar top 4 opener.
I personally rate Barry much higher, and yes Pollock didn't face the absolute best bowling, but the era wasn't nearly as flat as the 30's / 40's nor the 2000's. We're deducting points for playing then as well?
Pollock was acclaimed well before the ride came to an end, so has nothing to do with what could have been.
He was acclaimed because of how he scored and how quickly he did it. His ability to make any attack look ordinary and to turn a match in a session.
The exact opposite of Dravid.
If I could only choose one talent for my middle order I'm chosing Pollock and it has nothing to do with race.
so it’s just intuition, no statistical case
kyear2
International Coach
He averaged higher in more difficult conditions.
That says nothing, toy watch both of them play and you.know who was the better batsman.
Yes Dravid had the greater career, but that was due to circumstance.
Who do you think was the better batsman?
QzSqs-
Dravid obviously: he averaged as much as Pollock in five times as many tests. He played in all the global cricketing countries (Pollock played in half). Match defining innings in all the major opponents. Turned around India’s narrative as travellers.
the circumstance being apartheid. His country made a choice that led to them getting banned. His country made a choice that meant his career was forever stained by not playing against the dark people
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
I can't see why we are to blame Pollock for that, when by every record he tried his best against apartheid via cricket.
you can’t blame him for that, quite the opposite, but you can’t evaluate him because of that.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah but you have already admitted you rate Yousuf below Pollock. That means you are willing to ignore longevity. Just not for Dravid.
Exactly. Not on how good Pollock was.
Pollock is outstanding but unproven. Dravid was outstanding for longer and more proven. Yousuf not outstanding
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
How do you know Pollock was outstanding? And was Dravid equally outstanding?
the 16-13 vote in favour of Dravid would suggest some consensus that they are of similar quality
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
That's a dodge if I ever saw one.
I've made my argument as to why I think Dravid is a better bat than Pollock, even leaving longevity aside (he was tested more in more conditions for a similar output). Now give me why you think Pollock is better other than your intuition.