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Four Australian ATG batsmen
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Border vs Chappell vs Waugh vs Harvey
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capt_Luffy
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Why isn't Ponting included here??
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
I think Ponting was better than all of these guys except maybe Chappell
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Ponting wasn't better any of these batsmen here, except Harvey; and not than Chappell by a long shot...
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
Yea I think Chappell was better but Pontings longevity makes it close I think
capt_Luffy
International Coach
That's why I think Ponting should had been in the poll.
you have not seen any of these guys play, what twisted spreadsheet lead you to this?
capt_Luffy
International Coach
You definitely have seen Neil Harvey, right Mr. Boomer.
kyear2
International Coach
Chappell and Ponting battles for 3rd behind Bradman and Smith.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
We have gone over this many times; but Chappell is clear of Ponting imo. Just his WSC record can be argued to be multiple tiers above any of Ponting's series....
kyear2
International Coach
You don't get what Ponting was, the dominance an no. 3, he often felt inevitable, he was immense.
Bradman
Smith
Chappell / Ponting
Border
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
Think I'd go Chappell > Border > Waugh > Harvey. Not a lot between them though.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
As I said, been done that already; several times. He benefitted hugely from the 2000s Era and pitches, especially the Australian ones; and his away record leaves much room for things to be desired....
I would go:
Bradman - 1
Smith - 6
Chappell - 13
Trumper - 16
Border -18
Waugh - 19
Ponting - 22
Harvey - 36
Coronis
International Coach
Very odd list with Trumper at 16 and Hill nowhere in sight.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Hill- 40
kyear2
International Coach
You need to watch Punter bat bro, lol. He took games away.
If you're down grading him, then Gilly has to be as well. No one questions Gilly's record.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
Gilly is different though. Everything about him is different. He almost feels like a cheat code in a team.
And riddle me this, ofcourse I have seen his batting footages; but where can watch him live now? What the hell can I do for not being born earlier?? Please don't talk like that ma1968 guy....
kyear2
International Coach
Apologies not my intent. But to have watched him. You got mini Viv vibes... You would think you have a chance, then in a blink of an eye the game was already beyond you.
And yes, Gilly was a cheat code, but played in the same era in the same team.
capt_Luffy
International Coach
I mean, I am not disagreeing. But to be honest with you, how I rate late 80s to 2000s players have much to do with the discussions I have with my dad. And he truly believed that a match was never won when Steve Waugh was in the crease. He says that Ponting, Dravid, Kallis, etc. are all great batsmen; but Steve Waugh was among the most dependable. It's not like taking the game away and giving you a swift release like Ponting within a session; but slowly building up his innings and always working towards the goal. I know that one was ODI, but he especially talks about that SA '99 WC match; and the confidence Waugh had in such a dire situation. According to him, he would send in Waugh if the team score in 10/3 over any batsman bar Bradman.