Steve Waugh vs Ricky Ponting in Tests?

[capt_Luffy]

Ponting is criminally under rated on cw.

Steve Waugh is underrated. Allan Border is underrated. Ricky Ponting is the definition of 2000s nostalgia wanking....

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Ponting did play in a really easy era but I think he’d still average 50 in the 80s and 90s if he batted down at 5/6 like Waugh/Border/Chanders etc tbh.

 

[Burgey]

I've had the good fortune to rarely interact with you on here, as is shown by the fact you're somehow telling me of all people that Allan Border is under rated.

Ponting was the best batsman of the 2000s and batted in the most important spot in the order. Honestly I'm a massive Waugh fan and rate him very highly, but he had one pretty average series at three vs the Windies in 92/93 and other than that didn't bat above five to the best of my knowledge. Terrific player. Tough and uncompromising. But Ponting was better. Waugh was Aldi Border but Ponting was Aldi Bradman.

 

[Burgey]

Ponting did play in a really easy era but I think he’d still average 50 in the 80s and 90s if he batted down at 5/6 like Waugh/Border/Chanders etc tbh.

He'd average 50 if he batted three in those eras because he'd adapt, like all great players do. They're products of their environment and the conditions they grow up and play in. The only thing which is likely to suffer if he played in those eras would possibly be his strike rate, but the bloke also walked out against Ambrose and Walsh at Brisbane as a 20 year old wearing a cap and made 90, so maybe not.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Honestly, by the very basic logic every single Ponting wanker is using in this thread, surely Pujara>Laxman; right?? For once, Pujara even played in the tougher era unlike Ponting....

 

[Burgey]

I'm going to hate myself for asking this because I'd rather masturbate with a cheese grater than have a lengthy discussion with you, but enlighten us as to what you think is the "very basic logic" by which every person who rates Ponting ahead of Waugh came to that conclusion.

 

[PlayerComparisons]

He'd average 50 if he batted three in those eras because he'd adapt, like all great players do. They're products of their environment and the conditions they grow up and play in. The only thing which is likely to suffer if he played in those eras would possibly be his strike rate, but the bloke also walked out against Ambrose and Walsh at Brisbane as a 20 year old wearing a cap and made 90, so maybe not.

Yeah I think his strike rate would probably drop to around 55 in a harder era like Kohlis but would still average around 50

 

[capt_Luffy]

I'm going to hate myself for asking this because I'd rather masturbate with a cheese grater than have a lengthy discussion with you, but enlighten us as to what you think is the "very basic logic" by which every person who rates Ponting ahead of Waugh came to that conclusion.

Nah, feel free to masterbate with your cheese grater.

 

[Burgey]

I don't own a cheese grater ffs. You don't grate Bleu D'Auvergne, you heathen.

 

[sledger]

Ponting. Impressive that he managed to successfully overcome the serious impediments of having a silly little David Brent beard in the mid 90s and looking like a schoolboy any time he actually wore the baggy green.

 

[capt_Luffy]

How can I know that cheese is grated or not.... I am an Indian; we don't really cook with cheese at home.

 

[Coronis]

How can I know that cheese is grated or not.... I am an Indian; we don't really cook with cheese at home.

Man, thats a sad life.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Man, thats a sad life.

Have you ever tasted ghee??

 

[OverratedSanity]

How can I know that cheese is grated or not.... I am an Indian; we don't really cook with cheese at home.

Street vendors have been dumping half a kilo of grated cheese on everything the last few years unless explicitly told not to. It's an epidemic.

 

[Sunil1z]

Man, thats a sad life.

Sad life is eating Vegemite .

 

[Sunil1z]

My Breakfast

 

[trundler]

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This explains the prevalence of skinny-fatness in India

 

[centurymaker]

Honestly, by the very basic logic every single Ponting wanker is using in this thread, surely Pujara>Laxman; right?? For once, Pujara even played in the tougher era unlike Ponting....

You are the naive one here as you were in your diapers when Ponting was dominating the world. So you are basing your judgement off raw stats because thats all you have on him, having not really seen him play.

We have seen players before and after. We have lived through his career so obviously we would know better.

 

[Spark]

Yeah I was harsh on Ponting in the other thread only in comparison to Smith which is not really a fair comparison. It's hard to really countenance some of the ideas being thrown around here like "batting position doesn't matter".

 

[capt_Luffy]

You are the naive one here as you were in your diapers when Ponting was dominating the world. So you are basing your judgement off raw stats because thats all you have on him, having not really seen him play.

We have seen players before and after. We have lived through his career so obviously we would know better.

Ok boomer.