What is your ALL TIME WORLD XI TEAM for tests?

[Krypto]

All time . Based on old Videos and Articles and other cricketers recollection on those i haven't seen .

1) Jack Hobbs
2) Herbert Sutcliffe
3) Don Bradman (c)
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) Clyde Walcott
6) Garry Sobers
7) Adam Gilchrist
8) Richard Hadlee
9) Shane Warne
10) Joel Garner
11) Glenn McGrath

From my own personal opinion just letting out 6 i didn't see personally and what i did see of Garner wasn't his peak .

1) Sunil Gavaskar
2) Matthew Hayden
3) Viv Richards
4) Sachin Tendulkar
5) AB de Villiers
6) Imran Khan
7) Adam Gilchrist
8) Richard Hadlee
9) Shane Warne
10) Malcolm Marshall
11) Glenn McGrath

 

[Jumno]

Hutton
Hobbs
Bradman
Viv
B Richards
Gilchrist
Imran
Warne
Marshall
Lillee
McGrath

2nd:

Sutcliffe
Hammond
G Pollock
Tendulkar
G Chappell
Sobers
Knott
Hadlee
Holding
Murali
Trueman

 

[kyear2]

Asia XI
Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Miandad
Sangakkara(wk)
Imran(c)
Wasim
Waqar
Murali
Bumrah

YK unlucky. Which spinner/s would come in if the conditions were right?

SH XI (Minus Bradman)
Smith
Hayden
Ponting
Kallis
Smith
Border(c)
Gilchrist(wk)
Hadlee
Warne
Donald
Mcgrath

Lots of tough choices here. Simpson and Lawry considered for opening. Chappell and Waugh in the middle order. Lillee's m.o. post back injury wasn't that different to Hadlee's so i decided on Donald.

ROW XI
Hobbs
Hutton
Hammond
Richards(c)
Lara
Sobers
Knott(wk)
Marshall
Verity
Holding
Ambrose

Hammond vs Headley was close. Went with the former due to his better record against Australia. Small sample size for Headley but meh. Picked Holding over Garner because i think Holding offers something very different whereas Garner overlaps quite a bit with Ambrose. Verity vs Laker is a debate that will run and I was deciding what to do with Barnes and ended up not picking him as I didn't know who of Verity and Holding to ditch. Richards is captain over Hutton and Sobers due to having captained three of the bowlers during his career.

Which is the best team?

Like the idea, but no need to exclude Bradman.

For the SC, would personally go with Younis over Waqar, but I just don't like the long tails.

Would probably go Garner over Holding, he's more accustomed to the old ball.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Not necessarily the teams I would field, but the historically best Red ball cricket teams:

1st Team:

Sir John Berry Hobbs
William Gilbert Grace
Sir Donald George Bradman (captain)
Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar
Steven Peter Devereaux Smith
Sir Garifield St Aubrun Sobers
Adam Craig Gilchrist (wicketkeeper)
Sir Richard John Hadlee
Malcolm Denzil Marshall
Shane Keith Warne
Glenn Donald McGrath


2nd Team:

Sir Leonard Hutton
Sunil Manohar Gavaskar
Kumar Chokshanada Sangakkara (wicketkeeper)
Walter Reginald Hammond
Brian Charles Lara
Sir Isaac Vivian Alexander Richards
Imran Ahmad Khan Niazi (captain)
Wasim Akram
Sir Curtly Elconn Lynwall Ambrose
Deshabandu Mutthiah Muralitharan
Sydney Francis Barnes

3rd Team:

Herbert Sutcliffe
Victor Thomas Trumper
George Alphonso Headley
Robert Graeme Pollock
Gregory Stephen Chappell
Jacques Henry Kallis
Andrew Flower (wicketkeeper And captain)
Frederick Sewards Trueman
Dennis Keith Lillee
William Joseph O'Reilly
Dale Willem Steyn

4th Team:

Barry Anderson Richards
Sir Geoffrey Boycott
Rahul Sharad Dravid
Allan Robert Border (captain)
Ricky Thomas Ponting
Keith Ross Miller
Michael George Procter
Leslie Ethelbert George Ames (wicketkeeper)
Ravichandran Ashwin
Michael Anthony Holding
Allan Anthony Donald

5th Team:

Graeme Craig Smith
Robert Baddeley Simpson
Kenneth Frank Barrington
Sir Everton DeCourcy Weekes
Sir Clyde Leopold Walcott (wicketkeeper)
Stephen Rodger Waugh (captain)
Sir Ian Terrence Botham
Alan Keith Davidson
Raymond Russell Lindwall
James Charles Laker
Joel Garner

6th Team:

Sir Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge
Matthew Lawrence Hayden
Joseph Edward Root
Virat Kohli (captain)
Mohammad Javed Miandad
Abraham Benjamin de Villiers
Alan Philip Eric Knott (wicketkeeper)
Shaun MacLean Pollock
Clarence Victor Grimmett
Waqar Younis Maitla
Courtney Andrew Walsh

7th Team:

Arthur Shrewsbury
Virendra Sehwag
Kane Stuart Williamson
Arthur Dudley Nourse
Robert Neil Harvey
Frank Edward Woolley
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (wicketkeeper And captain)
Hedley Verity
Patrick James Cummins
Sir Anderson Montgomery Everton Roberts
James Michael Anderson


8th Team:

Arthur Robert Morris
Wilfred Rhodes
Sir Frank Mortimer Maglinne Worrell (captain)
Denis Charles Scott Compton
Mohammad Younis Khan
Kumar Sri Sir Ranjitsinhji Vibhaji II
Bradley-John Watling (wicketkeeper)
George Alfred Lohman
Anil Kumble
Sir Alec Victor Bedser
Kagiso Rabada


9th Team:

William Morris Lawry (captain)
Bruce Mitchell
Clement Hill
Rohan Bholalall Kanhai
Martin David Crowe
Khondaker Shakib Al Hasan
Denis Thomson Lindsay (wicketkeeper)
Kapil Dev Nikhanj
Hugh Joseph Tayfield
John Brian Statham
Robert George Dylan Willis


10th Team:

William Harold Ponsford
Sir Alaistar Nathan Cook
Charles George MaCartney
Peter Barker Howard May
Sir Clive Hubert Lloyd (captain)
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
John Henry Bickford Waite (wicketkeeper)
Richard Benaud
Harold Larwood
Frederick Robert Spofforth
Thomas Richardson

11th Team:

Vijay Singh Madhavji Merchant
Graham Alan Gooch
Stanley Joseph McCabe
Deshabandu Pinnaduwage Aravinda De Silva (captain)
Syed Inzamam-ul-Haq
Vangipurapu Venkata Sai Laxman
Horace Brackenridge Cameron (wicketkeeper)
Vernon Daryl Philander
Frank Holmes Tyson
Neil Amwin Treharne Adcock
Lancelot Richard Gibbs

 

[shortpitched713]

Maybe this Bhutanese shadow garden grown dark evil pack I'm smoking has me tripping, but how the **** is this thread different from the other All Time Great XI Arguing thread?

 

[capt_Luffy]

Maybe this Bhutanese shadow garden grown dark evil pack I'm smoking has me tripping, but how the **** is this thread different from the other All Time Great XI Arguing thread?

In that thread you could make an ATG country XI or some different XI with some weird restrictions or a team that haven't played in Test etc etc; i.e., any ****. This one is pure unadulterated AT Test XI.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Maybe this Bhutanese shadow garden grown dark evil pack I'm smoking has me tripping, but how the **** is this thread different from the other All Time Great XI Arguing thread?

Don't let their identical premises and content fool you, they differ in some key areas:

 

[howitzer]

This thread is a place to discuss the relative merits of Warne and Murali.

 

[kyear2]

Not necessarily the teams I would field, but the historically best Red ball cricket teams:

1st Team:

Sir John Berry Hobbs
William Gilbert Grace
Sir Donald George Bradman (captain)
Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar
Steven Peter Devereaux Smith
Sir Garifield St Aubrun Sobers
Adam Craig Gilchrist (wicketkeeper)
Sir Richard John Hadlee
Malcolm Denzil Marshall
Shane Keith Warne
Glenn Donald McGrath


2nd Team:

Sir Leonard Hutton
Sunil Manohar Gavaskar
Kumar Chokshanada Sangakkara (wicketkeeper)
Walter Reginald Hammond
Brian Charles Lara
Sir Isaac Vivian Alexander Richards
Imran Ahmad Khan Niazi (captain)
Wasim Akram
Sir Curtly Elconn Lynwall Ambrose
Deshabandu Mutthiah Muralitharan
Sydney Francis Barnes

3rd Team:

Herbert Sutcliffe
Victor Thomas Trumper
George Alphonso Headley
Robert Graeme Pollock
Gregory Stephen Chappell
Jacques Henry Kallis
Andrew Flower (wicketkeeper And captain)
Frederick Sewards Trueman
Dennis Keith Lillee
William Joseph O'Reilly
Dale Willem Steyn

4th Team:

Barry Anderson Richards
Sir Geoffrey Boycott
Rahul Sharad Dravid
Allan Robert Border (captain)
Ricky Thomas Ponting
Keith Ross Miller
Michael George Procter
Leslie Ethelbert George Ames (wicketkeeper)
Ravichandran Ashwin
Michael Anthony Holding
Allan Anthony Donald

5th Team:

Graeme Craig Smith
Robert Baddeley Simpson
Kenneth Frank Barrington
Sir Everton DeCourcy Weekes
Sir Clyde Leopold Walcott (wicketkeeper)
Stephen Rodger Waugh (captain)
Sir Ian Terrence Botham
Alan Keith Davidson
Raymond Russell Lindwall
James Charles Laker
Joel Garner

6th Team:

Sir Cuthbert Gordon Greenidge
Matthew Lawrence Hayden
Joseph Edward Root
Virat Kohli (captain)
Mohammad Javed Miandad
Abraham Benjamin de Villiers
Alan Philip Eric Knott (wicketkeeper)
Shaun MacLean Pollock
Clarence Victor Grimmett
Waqar Younis Maitla
Courtney Andrew Walsh

7th Team:

Arthur Shrewsbury
Virendra Sehwag
Kane Stuart Williamson
Arthur Dudley Nourse
Robert Neil Harvey
Frank Edward Woolley
Mahendra Singh Dhoni (wicketkeeper And captain)
Hedley Verity
Patrick James Cummins
Sir Anderson Montgomery Everton Roberts
James Michael Anderson


8th Team:

Arthur Robert Morris
Wilfred Rhodes
Sir Frank Mortimer Maglinne Worrell (captain)
Denis Charles Scott Compton
Mohammad Younis Khan
Kumar Sri Sir Ranjitsinhji Vibhaji II
Bradley-John Watling (wicketkeeper)
George Alfred Lohman
Anil Kumble
Sir Alec Victor Bedser
Kagiso Rabada


9th Team:

William Morris Lawry (captain)
Bruce Mitchell
Clement Hill
Rohan Bholalall Kanhai
Martin David Crowe
Khondaker Shakib Al Hasan
Denis Thomson Lindsay (wicketkeeper)
Kapil Dev Nikhanj
Hugh Joseph Tayfield
John Brian Statham
Robert George Dylan Willis


10th Team:

William Harold Ponsford
Sir Alaistar Nathan Cook
Charles George MaCartney
Peter Barker Howard May
Sir Clive Hubert Lloyd (captain)
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
John Henry Bickford Waite (wicketkeeper)
Richard Benaud
Harold Larwood
Frederick Robert Spofforth
Thomas Richardson

11th Team:

Vijay Singh Madhavji Merchant
Graham Alan Gooch
Stanley Joseph McCabe
Deshabandu Pinnaduwage Aravinda De Silva (captain)
Syed Inzamam-ul-Haq
Vangipurapu Venkata Sai Laxman
Horace Brackenridge Cameron (wicketkeeper)
Vernon Daryl Philander
Frank Holmes Tyson
Neil Amwin Treharne Adcock
Lancelot Richard Gibbs

Applaud the effort.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Applaud the effort.

Thanks. It took more time than I would like to admit, just because I stupidly thought of using Grace's full name....

 

[kyear2]

What I find fascinating is that, despite the fact that we mostly disagree, that we would agree that most of us understand the game, and that in 2 pages with multiple 11s, not a single one was duplicated. And that's with about 3 or 4 unanimous selections.

 

[howitzer]

Thanks. It took more time than I would like to admit, just because I stupidly thought of using Grace's full name....

'Thank **** I'm picking Wasim Akram this time.' @capt_Luffy probably.

 

[howitzer]

Applaud the effort.

Fun fact. He was going to pick Vaas in his 12th XI and decided to give up...

 

[Migara]

Criminal lack of Ian Healy and Prasanna Jayawardene as wicket keepers though. Last of the breed of pure stumpers who happened to be good with the bat, instead of top order batsmen who could keep.

 

[Red]

Hutton
Lara
Bradman
Tendulkar
Richards
Sobers
Gilchrist
Wasim
Warne
Marshall
McGrath

 

[capt_Luffy]

Criminal lack of Ian Healy and Prasanna Jayawardene as wicket keepers though. Last of the breed of pure stumpers who happened to be good with the bat, instead of top order batsmen who could keep.

I would personally take a batsman who can keep ahead of a keeper who can sorta bat.... I think including Healy will cost most of the teams I made in the batting (though he still is in my 14th team); and well, I have Wridhimann Saha over Prasanna Jayawardene as a keeper....

 

[kyear2]

Fun fact. He was going to pick Vaas in his 12th XI and decided to give up...

You're not doing one?

8 decent submissions so fat, would like to use a smaller size of 10.

 

[howitzer]

You're not doing one?

8 decent submissions so fat, would like to use a smaller size of 10.

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
Tendulkar
Lara
Sobers
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne
McGrath

 

[ataraxia]

Hobbs
Hutton*
Bradman
Tendulkar
Viv
Sobers
Gilchrist +
Imran
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne

Sutcliffe
Gavaskar
Hammond*
Lara
S Smith
Kallis
Knott +
Wasim
Lindwall
Murali
McGrath

 

[kyear2]

Yes this is a small sample size, but it's been borne out before in larger samples, but the next time Red or whomever does the next ATG XI, really only have to vote for 3 spots

The 5th spot, realistically between Richards and Smith, with Lara always getting votes.

The 3rd bowling spot which is always between Hadlee and Imran, with again Steyn getting votes

And while it didn't play out in this exercise (I would imagine voting demos so far), Warne and Murali. Everything else is on lock down.

Basically falls under 3 categories.

Unanimous choices or all but.
Bradman
Sobers
Marshall
Gilchrist

No need to explain further.

Very much consensus selections, not unanimous but not that far from, and guaranteed spots.
Hobbs
Tendulkar
McGrath

All but assured.
Hutton.

Tempted to include Warne here, but I'm the previous vote he and Murali were very, very close. Hutton does have some competition from Gavaskar and the Sutcliffe loyalists (just a joke), but he always makes it. Well until Steve gets enough innings under his belt.

Interested to see the remainder of the the 11s