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Murali vs Warne, who was better against high quality batsmen on flat pitches?

Who was the better bowler against high quality batsmen on flat pitches?

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capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Migara said:
SG vs kookaburra ball. Kumble and Bhajji had their stats completely opposite as a result.
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I mean, sure the ball was a big reason; but like there has to be something more to it.... But yeah, on that note, I also really can't think of any spinner to be really successful in Sri Lanka against a top class batting line-up....
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
In Indian soil Murali got some major bashings from Sidhu and in form Sehwag. Warne missed the wrath of the second. However Murali did produce some memorable spells against India in the mean time, which Warne failed to do.

On flatter WI wickets, Murali averages better than Warne.

If Murali has McGrath as his bowling partner, he would be way more deadlier on any type of wicket than Warne.
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
capt_Luffy said:
I mean, sure the ball was a big reason; but like there has to be something more to it.... But yeah, on that note, I also really can't think of any spinner to be really successful in Sri Lanka against a top class batting line-up....
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Against that particular lineup, Vettori and Warne did well. But these players built their careers bowling with a Kookaburra. There is something in SG that you need to grasp by practice I suppose.

Do India still use Sg or have they change to kookaburra? Can this be a contributing factor for the Indian domination?
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
Migara said:
Against that particular lineup, Vettori and Warne did well. But these players built their careers bowling with a Kookaburra. There is something in SG that you need to grasp by practice I suppose.

Do India still use Sg or have they change to kookaburra? Can this be a contributing factor for the Indian domination?
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India still uses SG. Now that I think about it, I believe Ashwin faced a good line-up in 2015 and did well; but other than that, can't think of any one.
 
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subshakerz

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Migara said:
In Indian soil Murali got some major bashings from Sidhu and in form Sehwag. Warne missed the wrath of the second. However Murali did produce some memorable spells against India in the mean time, which Warne failed to do.

On flatter WI wickets, Murali averages better than Warne.

If Murali has McGrath as his bowling partner, he would be way more deadlier on any type of wicket than Warne.
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Warne did face Sehwag.

I think Murali would more likely run through India on a spinning wicket. Not so on a flat one. Then you need to be creative and Warne was moreso.
 
capt_Luffy

capt_Luffy

Cricketer Of The Year
subshakerz said:
Warne did face Sehwag.

I think Murali would more likely run through India on a spinning wicket. Not so on a flat one. Then you need to be creative and Warne was moreso.
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Yeah, but Murali was successful against India atleast in some kind of wicket; Warne was bashed even more in Australia.
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
If Murali had McGrath or Steyn as his bowling partner. he would have had way more success in India. Murali got bashed by very limited number of Indian batsmen, and most of them were in early in his career. Shewag, Sidhu, Kapil, Azhar and Kambli once in a while were the only ones to take him to task. Others played him with respect, defensively and didn't give their wicket. Less so with Warne. almost every top order Indian batter dominated him.

Murali better knew the psyche of batters who play spin well. Warne knew that of poor better.
 
Migara

Migara

International Coach
subshakerz said:
They are both going to be bashed in this scenario. The question is who gets to eventually get them out.
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Murali's 8/80 came on a dead SSC pitch against India. He was getting dip and drift alarmingly in that spell. He is not known for drift or dip as profuse as Warne. If Murali gets everything aligned, pitch is out of the equation.
 
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subshakerz

Hall of Fame Member
Migara said:
Murali's 8/80 came on a dead SSC pitch against India. He was getting dip and drift alarmingly in that spell. He is not known for drift or dip as profuse as Warne. If Murali gets everything aligned, pitch is out of the equation.
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Yeah I agree that Murali could get more life out of dead pitch. Maybe you are right though they are more likely to play him out of respect. Warne I just see eventually getting a wicket off a loose shot after taking stick.
 
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