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Semi Serious Ideas to Re-Invigorate Test Cricket

TheJediBrah

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Unless your match referee is a physician with access to a ground-side, fully equipped and instantaneous radiology department there is no way this is being policed to anything even approaching an acceptable level
 

TheJediBrah

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At a stretch you could send a player off to hospital and wait for results, sure, but then you have to trust radiology nurses to not **** up the images and I wouldn't
 

TheJediBrah

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Now the other issue I have with this, which I know will be an unpopular opinion, is that injuries (and fitness) are important parts of sport. Being sturdy and fit is part of being a good player. Let anyone be replaced if they get hurt takes away from this. Picking a half fit player (eg Travis Head in the WC) is a risk and rightly so. It's not so much a risk if you can just replace him (pre-existing injury in his case, I know, but the point still stands).
 

Prince EWS

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Now the other issue I have with this, which I know will be an unpopular opinion, is that injuries (and fitness) are important parts of sport. Being sturdy and fit is part of being a good player. Let anyone be replaced if they get hurt takes away from this. Picking a half fit player (eg Travis Head in the WC) is a risk and rightly so. It's not so much a risk if you can just replace him (pre-existing injury in his case, I know, but the point still stands).
Yeah 100% agree.
 

Daemon

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I think you underestimate the role the match referee and the two team physios play in such cases. I will give you the Jadeja incident as I think most doctors and physios err on the very high side of caution coz of what the potential effects of concussions can be, but for regular injuries I think the physios will ensure there is no foul game going on.
This is crazy talk. If there is a way to cheat you can be sure the cheating aussies will find a way to do it.
 
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Socerer 01

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the cheating talk is being overblown imo

players arent going to willingly give up playing unless their injury is serious and no team is going to swap out a dude who is a regular for a bench player that easily unless the condition of the pitch or the match drastically changes

you could prevent the latter with only allowing like for like subs that need to be approved by the match referee
 

straw man

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Injury substitution can be used only be teams that have won the #SpiritOfCricket award in the last ten years, imo
 

Daemon

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the cheating talk is being overblown imo

players arent going to willingly give up playing unless their injury is serious and no team is going to swap out a dude who is a regular for a bench player that easily unless the condition of the pitch or the match drastically changes

you could prevent the latter with only allowing like for like subs that need to be approved by the match referee
For batsmen, I don't hate it. SA were a man down in the first test recently and I would've been 100% ok with a replacement batsmen.

It's trickier for bowlers though. The fitness thing makes a lot of sense. You shouldn't be rewarded for playing a 90% fit bowler 3 tests on the trot with a fresh one after the former breaks down mid test.

It does suck when a fit bowler gets a random injury though and you're left with 3 or 4 bowlers but it is what it is.
 

Prince EWS

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For batsmen, I don't hate it. SA were a man down in the first test recently and I would've been 100% ok with a replacement batsmen.

It's trickier for bowlers though. The fitness thing makes a lot of sense. You shouldn't be rewarded for playing a 90% fit bowler 3 tests on the trot with a fresh one after the former breaks down mid test.

It does suck when a fit bowler gets a random injury though and you're left with 3 or 4 bowlers but it is what it is.
Bowlers have to bat too. If an injured bowler is replaced by another bowler who's a much better lower order bat at 9 down in the third innings or something the team actually benefits a lot from the injury. I don't think that should ever happen.

Just suck it up when you have injuries imo.
 

TheJediBrah

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Bowlers have to bat too. If an injured bowler is replaced by another bowler who's a much better lower order bat at 9 down in the third innings or something the team actually benefits a lot from the injury. I don't think that should ever happen.

Just suck it up when you have injuries imo.
The whole "must be a similar player" is too subjective too. In this example for bowlers, what's the criteria for similar batting ability? Must have a career average within x runs? Already seems a bit silly.

Can you replace Josh Hazlewood in the 3rd innings with Will Sutherland as your back up bowler knowing you have to bat last and Sutherland would make a lot more runs?

So the criteria for "similar player " can't be too loose, but it can't be too strict either otherwise you'd need a squad of 20 players to cover every possibility
 

Coronis

International Coach
How would poor England replace Harry Brook with a similar player? 60 averaging bats don’t grow on trees.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
"Does cricket need a strong West Indies schlong?"
Haha, it's just the truth. I played a West Indian club side when I was playing English league cricket, and our club had an open shower room.

Those guys would've been on a million if they nicked the first ball for a single under TJB'S rule. Ginormous
 

NZTailender

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Butt and dick talk aside, how about a 4 way :naughty: test

Going back to my 22 player idea, the players could come from 2 countries. So each country gets 11 overall across the test but could have 9 in the first innings side but 2 in the second innings side.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Bro how could you think this would be a thing
Coz both team physios are there and they can agree on the results from the hospital etc? Most injuries happen when fielding and usually, the substitute fielder is fine. Or maybe if this and the concussion subs are a thing, there can be an ICC appoitned medical officer with the referee for each game/series. I agree this rule, like others, will be open for exploitation and it is something that will have to evolve over time to be as tight as possible but in essence, I am all for anything that takes away the random disadvantage this places teams at.
 

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